CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Syil Products


Syil Products Discuss Syil milling machines and conversion kits here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 12-23-2008, 09:21 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4
huwwuh is on a distinguished road
Engraving on X3

Hello,

Could anyone suggest a reasonably priced floating head engraving spindle for an X3?
I would quite like to fit one that drives down the existing spindle rather than bolting an additional unit to the side but would welcome suggestions for either approach.

Any help much appreciated.

Huwwuh.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 12-23-2008, 10:45 AM
Journey_Man's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 139
Journey_Man is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up

Hi I built a Spindle Speed Increaser for Richard Lowe @ Syil America.
Here is the Link to the site- http://www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalo...Increaser.html
The Kit had all of the Materials and a very good set of prints/I just had to convert them from mm to in.
I did all of the work with my C6 Lathe.

Last edited by Journey_Man; 12-23-2008 at 10:52 AM. Reason: edited link
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 12-24-2008, 02:27 AM
neilw20's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 62
Posts: 2,190
neilw20 is on a distinguished road
Floating head.

I found the floating heads very expensive,

http://www.2linc.com/engraving_mini.htm

so just clock up the job perfectly flat, and possibly use mill to surface grind the job first.
I found the money was better spent on an eclipse magnetic chuck just small enough that my splash guards still work.

Surface grinding...

Surface Grinding
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Engraving.jpg‎
Views:	92
Size:	34.3 KB
ID:	72163  
__________________
Super X3. 3600rpm. Two possible way to fix things: The right way or the other way.

Last edited by neilw20; 12-24-2008 at 09:20 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 12-24-2008, 07:54 PM
metalworkz's Avatar  
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Modesto, CA U.S.A.
Posts: 883
metalworkz is on a distinguished road

You can get bye with a regular engraving bit and do several very small passes if the parts are basically flat. This way you can stop at the end of a pass when the engraving looks good. The floating engraving tools are great to have but for most flat engraving it is hard to justify the cost.
__________________
Regards,
Wes
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 01-24-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4
huwwuh is on a distinguished road

I purchased a Kress 800 high speed spindle and have made a PTFE "nose" cone that is fixed to the motor and shrouds the cutter. Am in the process of placing the whol assembly on a spring loaded linear slide that I had lying around.
I'll let you know how it goes!
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 02-16-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4
huwwuh is on a distinguished road
Floating Head Gets Clogged

I have implemented my floating head arrangement (a bit crude but quick and easy to make). It uses a Kress spindle.
It works fine until I've cut about an inch (through acrylic) when either the tool overheats or the nose cone starts riding up on the swarf. If I remove the nose cone I can cut a clean line no problem but obviously without the cutter setting its own height.
I think that both of these issues are down to swarf collecting around the cutter in the nose cone.
Does anyone know how to keep the nose cone clear while it's cutting?
Should I hack a quarter out of the nose cone so it's partially open or is there another way?
Attached are pictures of the set-up including the nose cone.

Any help much appreciated.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1.JPG‎
Views:	105
Size:	135.2 KB
ID:	75814   Click image for larger version

Name:	2.JPG‎
Views:	90
Size:	74.8 KB
ID:	75815  

Last edited by huwwuh; 02-16-2009 at 10:55 AM. Reason: Change image embedding
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 02-16-2009, 01:35 PM
metalworkz's Avatar  
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Modesto, CA U.S.A.
Posts: 883
metalworkz is on a distinguished road

Do you think you could incorporate an air passage directed down through the nozzle? This would probably help cool the bit while hopefully keeping the swarf from getting into the nozzle? It would require running a small compressor to supply the air pressure, but usually one is needed anyway for clearing the chips etc. Just an idea. Thanks for posting the pictures and your progress!

Regards,
__________________
Regards,
Wes
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 02-16-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4
huwwuh is on a distinguished road
Air Injection

I could change the noze cone in line with the attached drawing (I've got an airline to hand so the compressor is not a problem) but I can't really see where the swarf will go. By putting a high pressure region inside the nozzle you would be pushing the swarf away _underneath_ the cone that is meant to be sliding cleanly on the work surface.

Does anyone know how the real ones work?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	float.JPG‎
Views:	60
Size:	85.1 KB
ID:	75830  
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 02-16-2009, 04:14 PM
metalworkz's Avatar  
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Modesto, CA U.S.A.
Posts: 883
metalworkz is on a distinguished road

I think the air flow from the nozzle will basically keep the path around the nozzle clear of the swarf. Perhaps as you mentioned a section of the nozzle could be removed and the airflow directed to blow the swarf out through the section that is removed. This way the nozzle will still have a good sized base to ride on the material and the swarf can exit through the cutout via the air pressure? It will also flow over the bit and help remove swarf that clings to the bit while cooling the tool.

Regards,
__________________
Regards,
Wes
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 02-17-2009, 01:53 AM
john_t_h's Avatar  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Age: 44
Posts: 150
john_t_h is on a distinguished road

Have a look here for some home made solutions http://www.vectric.com/forum/viewtop...=4772&start=15
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply

Tags
engraving, high speed spindle, mill




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Engraving Help G47 BigBoBo G-Code Programing 6 07-04-2008 04:37 AM
Engraving on an arc YV600 Haas Mills 15 03-31-2008 01:46 PM
Pen engraving dwilkins WoodWorking 6 09-08-2007 02:47 PM
engraving dickiedog CNCzone Club House 0 12-24-2006 05:00 PM
Engraving camtd Surfcam 9 09-05-2006 11:22 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353