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Old 10-29-2009, 02:42 AM
 
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Question A Should-Be Simple Post Location Problem

In my NC Operations Manager there is there are only 2 Machines to choose from. Looking at the Surfcam.pst there is only the 2 machines setup both are simular to:

Status MotionMaster Dual Table 5 axis Router Fagor8055
Command "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\INC2APT" -I "%p%n" -O "%p%N.apt"
ChDir "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST"
Command "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST\SPOSTM" "%p%N.apt" 115 "%p%N.ncc"
Task "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\editNC\editNC" "%p%N.pid"

My problem is Yesterday everything was fine, Today the the out put has put the Block Numbers in on every line, at the begining of the posting it would ask me for a tool offset, and it automatically added sutomatically added a homing move at the end of the file.

I know that something had to have happend to the either the spost or the mpost, but none of them show modified recently (since 2007) and I am not sure exactly which file I need to look in. I looked at all the Mpost files in the PostLibrary and the are all set to N 0 1 1 or N 0 0 0 for the line numbers, so I am lost

In the Spost folder I was guessing that UncXXX.f115 files might have been it but unable to see anthing that is familiar.

So where are the files I am looking for Located? The Spost Configuration says that it is a custom unsported file but I was upable to determine where the file was located.

Could some kind of Microsoft Update messed everything up?
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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1. You should use the SPost not MPost. and the command line should be one wrong.

The output of NC program which your need is .ncc or .pid ? Please change the last two line and let the last two extension to be same. Like these:

Status MotionMaster Dual Table 5 axis Router Fagor8055
Command "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\INC2APT" -I "%p%n" -O "%p%N.apt"
ChDir "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST"
Command "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST\SPOSTM" "%p%N.apt" 115 "%p%N.pid"
Task "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\editNC\editNC" "%p%N.pid"

2. The file extension for SPost should be UNCX01.P115 and UNCX01.F115, there are under the C:\SURFCAM\Postlib\SPost\ for your 5 Axis Machine. Also, you could not use SPost Configuration to modify your Post file which the extension are UNCX01.Pxxx and UNCX01.Fxxx
The SPost Configuration could modify UNCX01.Pxx, UNCX01.Pxxxx and UNCX01.Fxx , UNCX01.Fxxxx

Please change your surfcam.pst as intem# 1 and repost your NC opreation again.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:31 AM
 
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I thought that i should but wasn't sure.

Sorry about the goof in the .pst file I did morst of that from memory. Here is the actual.

Status MotionMaster Dual Table 5 axis Router Fagor8055
Command "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\INC2APT" -D -5 -W -X -I "%p%n" -O "%p%N.apt"
ChDir "C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST"
Command C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\SPOST\SPOSTM "%p%N.apt" 151 "%p%N.PIM"
Task C:\SURFCAM\Velocity4\editNC\editNC "%p%N.PIM"

I havent figured put the SPost file and for some reason I am not able to edit it. For that matter it doesn't even show up as an available option file for me to edit.

Here is what is in the uncx01.f151

READ/20,ALL,AS151
$$ 5 Axis POST PROCESSOR for Motion Master 5 Axis Router using a
$$ FAGOR 8055 CONTROL
$$
$$
$$
$$ Axis convention for a Motion Master machine
$$
$$ 1 ENDED SPINDLE
$$ C Axis 0 to 359.9 and Actual -2.9 to 360.9
$$ B AXIS 0 to 120 Plus and Minus actual -127.86 to 127.482
$$ !!!!!!!!!! SPECIAL AXIS ORIENTATIONS !!!!!!!!!
$$ SurfCAM front view is left side of machine.
$$ -- Standing in front of the machine Y Plus is to the RIGHT
$$ Head motion: X Plus is toward the Front of the machine
$$ Table motion: X+ is toward the Back of the machine
$$ Z Plus is up
$$ -- As viewed from the top - down
$$ Starting from c Zero C Axis CCW IS + CW IS -
$$ Tool vertical with B0 and C0 and waist axis to the right
$$ B-90 C0 points tool tip toward machine Front (X+)
$$ B+90 C0 points tool tip toward machine Back (X-)
$$ B+90 C90 points tool tip toward the Left (Y-)
$$ B-90 C90 points tool tip toward the Right (Y+)
$$ FOR USE WITH SURFCAM, Programmers Front view is Left side of machine.
$$ Parts are mounted with X+ toward front of the machine.
$$
$$ Rev 03 Dec 28, 2006 Post never used for 5 axis had to change C conventions
$$ Added automatic wind/unwind
$$

CALL/INIT

$$ ---------- User adjustable Variables -------------------------
!ZRET=0 $$ Change this value for different RETRCT/ Z values
$$ -- Wind and unwind variables
RetDst=5 $$ Retract distance along tool vector for wind/unwind
Cmin=-2.9 $$ Minimum C the machine can physically rotate to
Cmax=360.9 $$ Maximum C the machine can physically rotate to
Fhigh=600 $$ Feed rate for moving down after a Wind/Unwind


$$ ---------- User adjustable TEXT Variables -------------------------
$$ CAUTION the text T71 thru T78 will be replaced with the following text.
$$ DO NOT allow these text strings to be part of your comments or they
$$ will be replaced making your comments wrong.


T71=TEXT/' ( --- TERMINATING OUTPUT ---)'
T72=TEXT/' (Can not get to new C position with Right Angle Head)'
T73=TEXT/'#RTCP OFF'
T74=TEXT/'#RTCP ON'
T75=TEXT/' (**Completed C Axis WIND/UNWIND process **)'
T76=TEXT/' (**Begin C Axis WIND/UNWIND process **)'
T77=TEXT/' (Warning - Attempting to cut past C-Axis Stop)'
T78=TEXT/' (Unwinding 360 exceeds C Axis range, using SWITCH/ method)'
T79=TEXT/' (Tighten the SurfCAM Curve Tolerance in the Cut Control Tab)'

$$ ---------- End of User adjustable Variables ------------------

PRINT/ON,IN $$ TURN THIS IN TO SEE THE VARIABLES


REPLAC/(TEXT/'T71'),T71
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T72'),T72
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T73'),T73
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T74'),T74
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T75'),T75
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T76'),T76
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T77'),T77
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T78'),T78
REPLAC/(TEXT/'T79'),T79


CIMFIL/ON,ARCSLP
CALL/MACARC
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,CYCLE
CALL/MACCYC
CIMFIL/OFF


CIMFIL/ON,END
CALL/MACEND
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,FEDRAT
CALL/MACFED
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,LOADTL
RR=POSTF(20) $$ SAVE THE RECORD
CLEARP/XYPLAN,!ZRET
R=POSTF(21) $$ RELOAD THE RECORD
CALL/MACLOA
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,MACHIN
CALL/MACMAC
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,PARTNO $$ TRAP PARTNO RECORD
CALL/MACPAR
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,RAPID
CALL/MACRAP
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,SELECT
CALL/MACSEL
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,SEQNO $$ LOOK OF SEQNO RECORD
CALL/MACSEQ
CIMFIL/OFF $$ THROW IT OUT

CIMFIL/ON,SET
CALL/MACSET
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,SPINDL
CALL/MACSPN
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,SWITCH
CALL/MACSWI
CIMFIL/OFF

CIMFIL/ON,UNITS
CIMFIL/OFF


I am not sure if I should try to create a new file and paste in these variables or what I should do.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:14 AM
 
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1. It seem your Post were securitied by your SURFCAM system suppllier (Dealer or Surfware) Maybe there is a file named AS151 locatede in C:\SURFCAM\Postlib\SPost\M_IMAGE\

2. You should find out the original SURFCAM.PST which the Post be installed.

3. Please copy UNCX01.P151 and UNCX01.F151 to be UNCX01.1151 and UNCX01.F1151. Then Copy those command lines which for 151 and paste below the original after one blank line and Change all to be 1151

4. Use SPost Configuration to open the UNXCX01.P1151 w/ UNCX01.F1151
File Formats --> MCD File then Disable the N Register

5. Save and run that new Post (1151) for your Tool Path again.

or

Please send those three files w/ your scprt file to sinderal@ms4.hinet.net

or

Ask your local dealer for help.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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There is an AS151 file.

There is only the one surfcam.pst file that I have been able to find.

Changing the extension worked. I can now Edit it with the SPost Configurator.

I see where I can edit the N stuff but I am not seeing any place to disable it. I will continue to look though.

I will try the regenerating a tool path this afternoon and let you know.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:52 AM
 
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Use SPost Configuration to open the UNXCX01.P1151 w/ UNCX01.F1151
File Formats --> MCD File

Choose the N register and then left click the N then you will find the popup register and the "disbale" in it.


I will try the files which you sent through E-Mail.
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Sorry it took so long to get back. I don't know why but when I started the next project everything went back to normal. I have tried creating other projects and all were fine.

Is there a way to setup a modified post or default post from with in a project? I will try to upload the bad project and a good project tomorrow, so perhaps someone can tell me what went wrong.
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