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    Pairing an 8 wire Steeper Motor

    Hello Esteemed Colleagues: I need your help in converting my 8 wire motor to 4. I do have the datasheet, but I don't understand the wiring diagram. Thus, I don't know which wires I have to connect together. The motor is a 23j1854-828 (see the attached picture).
    Note: There is little information (that I could find) in dealing with the interpretation of the symbols. Thank you
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    Well, the coloured wires are shown on the diagram. You will need to decide which type you want, namely high torque or high speed connection?

    What contoller are you using? You need to know the current rating for your controller board and your motor for each each possible wiring condition, like uniploar, bipolar, bipolar series, etc.

    Let us know, then we can walk you through a possible connection.


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    Wink YEP

    Quote Originally Posted by KOC62 View Post
    Well, the coloured wires are shown on the diagram. You will need to decide which type you want, namely high torque or high speed connection?

    What contoller are you using? You need to know the current rating for your controller board and your motor for each each possible wiring condition, like uniploar, bipolar, bipolar series, etc.

    Let us know, then we can walk you through a possible connection.
    What he said.


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    I have the information you requested

    Thank you for your rapid response.

    The connection is for high torque.
    The driver is a 2m542 4.2amps.
    The breakout board is a HY-JK02-M 5 axis.
    The motor is rated at 2.8 amps.
    The PSU is 24volts 15amps.
    I will have 3 axis only.

    The datasheet shows the wire colors and the winding diagram. But I don't know what the symbol represents. I wish that, additionally, it would list the color pair cables that go to: A, A-, B, B- with words.
    Then, I could be handling the connections from tthe motors to the drivers. Thank you


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    This first diagram at the bottom gives the coloured wires and how they are connected in high torque. The next diagram represent the equivalent 4-wire result showing the A/A- and B/B- coils.

    According to the diagram for "High torque";
    This is a SERIES connection.

    Join YELLOW wire to RED wire
    This gives you the two wires for the A coil which you connect to your driver;
    +A BLUE
    -A GREEN

    The B coil;
    Join BLACK wire to ORANGE wire.
    This gives you the two wires for the B coil which you connect to your driver.
    +B BROWN
    -B WHITE

    If you decide to use the "High Speed" wiring then do the following.
    This is a PARALLEL connection
    Join GREEN to RED
    Join YELLOW to BLUE
    This results in;
    +A BLUE/YELLOW pair
    -A GREEN/RED pair

    Join ORANGE and BROWN
    Join BLACK AND WHITE
    This results in;
    +B BROWN/ORANGE pair
    -B WHITE/BLACK pair


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    Just a note about the switching arrangement.

    I have bought three rotary switches so that if ever I need speed from my steppers rather than torque then all I have to do is switch from Torque to Speed on the rotary switches.


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    There is a list of all the connection options at: techref.massmind.org/techref/io/stepper/connections.htm along with the advantages and disadvantages of each.
    James hosts the single best wiki page about steppers for CNC hobbyists on the net:
    http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/steppers.htm Disagree? Tell him what's missing! ,o)


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    James-Newton,

    That is a good reference you provided.

    I gave the wiring in a my earlier post because I thought he didn't know how to wire his specific motor using his motor's wiring colour code. Your reference may not provide that info. I too recommend that he read the provided link for further insight.


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    Thank you note

    I'm deeply thankful for the information. I will visit the sites listed. Now I can read the datasheets of other motors since you show me how the diagram connections work. I updated my previous picture with the combinations you showed me. Thank you again
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    Excellent. Those "Eureka" moments.
    Things are always simpler once one understands.
    Sometimes us experienced folk don't realize what is not clear to the uninitiated and we make the wrong assumptions.


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    I believe your second drawing "wiring for high speed in series" is wrong. Not in the schematic but in its term. I believe this type of connection is referred to as parallel. In fact your diagram almost proves it as all wires are drawn parallel. Would someone please confirm or deny my suspicion?
    Quote Originally Posted by EKFER View Post
    I'm deeply thankful for the information. I will visit the sites listed. Now I can read the datasheets of other motors since you show me how the diagram connections work. I updated my previous picture with the combinations you showed me. Thank you again


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    fastest1

    The labelling is confusing since both say "8 lead Wire series connection".
    You are correct in that the parallel bipolar connection gives the highest torque while the unipolar connection gives the highest speed.

    Also see james newton's link in post #7 for further info.
    I assumed that ekfer read that link's info fo clarification.


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