HY01D511B 110 1.5 kw 260hz only after stall

[rlarge]

I had everything working fine it was at a consent 400hz then i made my first 5mm plunge with jog and i realized the bit was going the wrong way. Anyway the spindle stalled i hit the stop button on the vfd within 2 sec. Jogged up and turn the spindle on again and could only reach 260hz with the dial at full power. I would imagine there is some kinda stall protections built into the vfd or did i just fry it or the spindle.

Thanks in advance.

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[Barefootboy4]

Rlarge,
That is strange but I'm sure the spindle is fine. The VFD is made to deal with the stall issue. You may want to go thru all your parameters settings again after you power cycle the VFD. Just go thru the basic steps of setup. I'm sure Mac will jump in to help you out if you still have not solved it! Did you get a error code when it stalled? I question why it stalled with only a 5mm plunge. That spindle is powerful and even running backwards it should not have stalled. What were you cutting for material?

Steve

[rlarge]

I'll i give it a look and make sure the settings are all still good. And no error codes but i was cutting a spare piece of hardwood. I thought it was kinda odd but i figured it was some kinda safety reset maybe.

[mactec54]

I had everything working fine it was at a consent 400hz then i made my first 5mm plunge with jog and i realized the bit was going the wrong way. Anyway the spindle stalled i hit the stop button on the vfd within 2 sec. Jogged up and turn the spindle on again and could only reach 260hz with the dial at full power. I would imagine there is some kinda stall protections built into the vfd or did i just fry it or the spindle.

Thanks in advance.

If you have the VFD set correct the spindle will not run the wrong way, a stall like this can cause damage, to both VFD or Spindle, if you don't have any faults coming up, lets start with what Parameters you have set

[rlarge]

I took the settings from (http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindl...110-1-5-a.html) here. I rechecked all of them they were all the same when i set them. The ones you corrected not the ones he posted. I checked the resistance between the spindle pins and it was 3.3 between all of them in a circular motion. While i had it unplugged i turned on the vfd and it only went up to 260hz still. Don't know if i should have done that if it hurts it or not.

On a side note what kinda wire would you recommend... i went with a twisted shielded wire 12-3 with covered ground because i thought the thicker the better (same price) and i didn't want any EMI interference but im having trouble with it bending so i'm gonna need something much smaller i think. lol

[rlarge]

Also i had to flip one of the wires to change the direction.

[mactec54]

I took the settings from (http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindl...110-1-5-a.html) here. I rechecked all of them they were all the same when i set them. The ones you corrected not the ones he posted. I checked the resistance between the spindle pins and it was 3.3 between all of them in a circular motion. While i had it unplugged i turned on the vfd and it only went up to 260hz still. Don't know if i should have done that if it hurts it or not.

On a side note what kinda wire would you recommend... i went with a twisted shielded wire 12-3 with covered ground because i thought the thicker the better (same price) and i didn't want any EMI interference but im having trouble with it bending so i'm gonna need something much smaller i think. lol

Yes 12-3 is incorrect, this would not fit your plug correctly, you only need 18 Gauge for this spindle, bigger is not better, in this case, here is the part number for IGUS cable CF35-15-04 16 Gauge or CF35-07-04 18 Gauge

The correct wiring is important, the spindle plug U=pin 1 V=Pin 2 W=Pin 3, and Ground to pin 4, have you checked the Pin 4 to see if it is Grounded, most times you have to fix the pin 4

You did not say what Parameters you have set, I need to know what you have set to see if there is one that is causing the problem

No it will not hurt the VFD to run it without the spindle attached

[rlarge]

My Settings are these...

Front Panel Operation PD001 0
Front Panel Knob PD002 1
main Frequency PD003 400
Base Frequency PD004 400
Max Frequency PD005 400
Intermediate Frequency PD006 2.5
min Frequency PD007 20
Max voltage PD008 110
Intermediate Voltage PD009 15
Min Voltage PD010 8
Frequency Lower Limit PD011 60
Acceleration Time PD014 10
Deceleration Time PD015 10
Analog Input PD070 1
Analog Filter PD071 20
Lower Analog Frequency PD072 400
Higher Analog Frequency PD073 120
Rated Motor Voltage PD141 110
Rated Motor Current PD142 5
Motor Poles PD143 2
Rated Motor RPM PD144 3000


My spindle wasn't grounded no wire inside the spindle so i attached the ground to the spindle bracket between the spindle and the bracket.
All i can find wire wise is (https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/16-3c-w-ground-shielded-vfd-cable.html) with a min order of 40 feet. Know anywhere else i could get it?

[mactec54]

My Settings are these...

Front Panel Operation PD001 0
Front Panel Knob PD002 1
main Frequency PD003 400
Base Frequency PD004 400
Max Frequency PD005 400
Intermediate Frequency PD006 2.5
min Frequency PD007 20
Max voltage PD008 110
Intermediate Voltage PD009 15
Min Voltage PD010 8
Frequency Lower Limit PD011 60
Acceleration Time PD014 10
Deceleration Time PD015 10
Analog Input PD070 1
Analog Filter PD071 20
Lower Analog Frequency PD072 400
Higher Analog Frequency PD073 120
Rated Motor Voltage PD141 110
Rated Motor Current PD142 5
Motor Poles PD143 2
Rated Motor RPM PD144 3000


My spindle wasn't grounded no wire inside the spindle so i attached the ground to the spindle bracket between the spindle and the bracket.
All i can find wire wise is (https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/16-3c-w-ground-shielded-vfd-cable.html) with a min order of 40 feet. Know anywhere else i could get it?

With a quick look I could see only one main Parameter that is incorrect

Frequency Lower Limit PD011 60 this should be no less than 100 and for safety set to 120, if you ran your spindle at that 60Hz you will damage it or the VFD

So just to see if there is a problem with the VFD do a Reset, and then redo just your parameters with PD011=120 and see if it will work's again

Unless you are controlling the VFD with 5v then PD070=0

PD009 and PD010 should only be at the VFD Drive Default and should not be a Parameter that you set

If the cable is not rated for high flex, do not buy it, as it needs to be like what I posted that you can get from IGUS, this company is world wide
https://www.igus.com/, there are lots of other quality cable manufactures also, but it must be high flex rated or you will be wasting your money, if you get it from this company you can buy it by the foot or the exact amount that you need

[rlarge]

First of all i would like to say thanks, your help was invaluable and from a person just getting involved in cnc its overwhelming at times learning/breaking things. I managed to clear and set the settings and it fix the problem. No damage from what i can tell. I'm going to wait to test until i get the new wire. With that i went to the IGUS website and searched for CF35-07-04 18 Gauge but no luck. If other people searching you manually have to find what you need through the dropdowns... Not a problem just annoying... Then i added 15 feet to my cart and went to check out got all the way to add payment info and they don't accept credit cards online i guess with shipping to Carbondale IL. I don't really know but a representative is supposed to call me. I've looked other places but i'm kinda leary already bought the wrong wire for 60 bucks. lol If you have anymore ideas on wire i'm open to suggestions.

Again i would like to think you for your help and from your post history you are a huge asset to this community and to noobs like me,

Sincerely, Roger

[mactec54]

First of all i would like to say thanks, your help was invaluable and from a person just getting involved in cnc its overwhelming at times learning/breaking things. I managed to clear and set the settings and it fix the problem. No damage from what i can tell. I'm going to wait to test until i get the new wire. With that i went to the IGUS website and searched for CF35-07-04 18 Gauge but no luck. If other people searching you manually have to find what you need through the dropdowns... Not a problem just annoying... Then i added 15 feet to my cart and went to check out got all the way to add payment info and they don't accept credit cards online i guess with shipping to Carbondale IL. I don't really know but a representative is supposed to call me. I've looked other places but i'm kinda leary already bought the wrong wire for 60 bucks. lol If you have anymore ideas on wire i'm open to suggestions.

Again i would like to think you for your help and from your post history you are a huge asset to this community and to noobs like me,

Sincerely, Roger

Thanks for your post, not everyone thinks the same as you, if IGUS does not call you, call them, they take credit cards over the phone, and are good to deal with 800 521 2747

There are others that sell there cable, but the price is higher

I will post this set of Parameters so you can check, this is all that you need to set

You may have to go higher with PD145 When running on 120v Power supply

Huanyang Mactec54
1.5Kw 120v spindle

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
( J1 Also Needs to be set for Terminal Control )

PD003=400

PD004=400

PD005=400

PD007=20

PD008=120 (Motor Rated Voltage)

PD009=15

PD010=8

PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)

PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

PD014 Acceleration=12 ( Adjust to suit)

PD015 Deceleration=12 (Adjust to suit)

( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

PD141=120 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

PD041=6 ( 6 to 8 Max Carrier Frequency )

PD142=7 ( Motor Max Amps for 1.5Kw Spindle)

PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

PD72=400

PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )