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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    So what parameters have you set, there is obvious some that are not suited for your spindle

    Set higher with the deceleration setting

    what was the error Fault ???

    Try these parameters ( 1 ) at a time

    Set F0-24=1

    Set Fl-07=2


    error was rrr06



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Quote Originally Posted by transformer82 View Post
    error was rrr06
    That was Over voltage when Decelerating

    This can damage the VFD Drive, you increased to 20s which is good, but with these spindles Drives, this can be reduced by setting other settings that help with the Decelerating, the other ( 2 ) I suggested are both related to Acceleration and Decelerating, which help how this slows the Spindle Motor

    There are other Parameter's also, that can be used to slow the Spindle Motor down quicker

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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    ill set everything back to 10 tye the 2 settings you said and let you know if it works



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    ok I did the two setting you told me reset f0-18 back to 10 nothing still err06



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Quote Originally Posted by transformer82 View Post
    ok I did the two setting you told me reset f0-18 back to 10 nothing still err06
    I will look at other settings, what spindle motor do you have which manufacture

    It looks like you will have to go back to a higher number, to be able to keep it running, just increase F0-18 by 2 at a time until it does not fault out, it's not normal to need a Braking Resistor for these Spindles Motors, but if the VFD's onboard Braking Resistor is weak or does not have one this could be the reason for having to use a high number, this is a new VFD Drive to the hobby market, it seems to be quite well built and has features that a lot do not

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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Quote Originally Posted by transformer82 View Post
    ill set everything back to 10 tye the 2 settings you said and let you know if it works
    A question do you have the KD100 VFD Drive or the KD200 VFD Drive this makes a big difference as to how the Deceleration Parameter's are set

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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Just writing this up so I can remember what the heck I did in years to come as the configuration of the Kinda KD200 is not exactly straight forward to a n00b. Besides the obovus wires like power and the Spindle, I have 4 other connections comming from my SmartSain Mach3 BOB. Spindle control out pins from the BOB, + to VFD VI, - to VFD ACM. Then I setup the relay to turn the spindle on/off. Make sure the P17 Relay pin is enabled/on/jumpered. Then connect the spindle relay terminals to the VFDs MI1 and DCM. Hope this can be of help to others.

    Documentation is from the manual of what each command is doing:

    To reset your Kinda KD200 to its factory defaults:
    F0-27=3 (Parameters initialization, 3: Initialized completely)

    My spindle settings. 1.5KW 24000RPM Water cooled spindle, adjust accordingly.
    F2-01=1.5KW (Motor rated power 0.1kW ~ 1000.0kW )
    F2-02=220V (Motor rated voltage 1V ~ 2000V )
    F2-03=7A (Motor rated current 0.01A ~ 655.35A )
    F2-04=400Hz (Motor rated frequency 0.00Hz ~ F0-10 (max. frequency) )
    F2-05=24000RPM (Motor rated speed 1 ~ 65535RPM)
    F0-10=400Hz (Maximum frequency 50.00Hz ~ 600.00Hz )
    F0-12=400Hz (Frequency upper limit. F0-14 (frequency lower limit) ~ F0-10 (max. frequency))

    And if you want to display the RPM during running, then you need to set:
    F7-03=401F (Running status display, see manual for more info)
    F7-06=0.6 (Load speed display coefficient)
    F7-12=0 (Load speed display decimal place)

    0~10V speed control (VI - ACM)
    F0-02=1 (Running command source 0: Keypad 1: Terminal)
    F0-03=2 (Main frequency source A selection: 0: Keypad, 1: Keypad potentiometer, 2: VI (0~10V))

    Tweaking the 0V~10V beacuse my BOB is not that good and only outputs 0.25V~9.04V:
    F5-13=0.25 (VI minimum input)
    F5-15=9.04 (VI maximum input 0.00 ~ 10.00V)

    External relay on/off (MI1/MI2 --> DCM)
    F5-00=1 (MI1 terminal function, 0: No function 1: Forward (FWD) 2: Reverse (REV))
    F5-01=2 (MI2 terminal function, 0: No function 1: Forward (FWD) 2: Reverse (REV))



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    ok back to the basics I'm still a NOOB with this thing still having small problems.. been using the vfd and spindle awhile 200+ hrs but I start and stop it manually.. its the kinda 200 vfd what do I need to wire it to my BOB to I can start stop in the software?



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    You need to detail which spindle/VFD you are using but it is possible to control the spindle via a C41 card from CNC4PC, or if your VFD supports modbus that can control the spindle start,stop, speed, direction, etc.

    Also what BOB are you using? The C41 card adds a couple relays and an analog output that will wire directly to the VFD. The input to the C41 card is typically a PWM signal generated by Mach3 via a output, some cards like the Ethernet Smoothstepper has this all built into their card. Anyway the PWM signal comes in and is converted to an analog voltage from (0-10V) which gets feed to the VFD analog input pin and analog ground. The VFD has to be programmed to uses that input for controlling speed. Then you typically use two relays that also wire to the VFD and are controlled by two output ports and controlled by Mach3.

    Just detail you exact setup including software and this can be easy to setup and get working. Modbus also works and depending on the VFD there are plugins, but only for a few VFDs, otherwise you need to write some software, so many people skip modbus.

    Russ



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    Or if you have a BOB that has a opto open collector output or similar to the G540 then you can interface RUN input directly.No need for relays.
    See http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindl...equipment.html
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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    this is one of the boards I have

    WiXHC MK4 3rd Generation - Mach3, USB, 2000KHz, 4-Axis Motion Control Breakout Board,
    Features:
    - USB Plug (no more slower LPT/Printer Ports)
    - Supports both Stepper and Servo motors
    - Runs at 2000KHZ
    - 4 Axis Controller
    - 6-36VDC Power requirement to power your accessories
    - Spindle support (inverter, inverter with speed regulator - PWM)
    - Supports wireless MPG (WiXHC Version Board)
    - 16 Inputs
    - 7 Outputs
    - Wire limit switches, probe and relays


    but due to computer problems with mach3
    I'm using estlcam for everything with Arduino uno and cnc shield
    and after looking around with my vfd and junk I have lying around the kinda vdf needs 0-10v pmw
    the uno board is 5v can I make this work? with running vfd form the software ...until I get a new computer? for mach3 ..I use the cnc almost everyday but would like to have not to start stop the spindle manually



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    Default Re: 220 vfd

    The information on the WiXHC MK4 seems very limited, the only thing I could see is the outputs indicated they were contact closure, but not verifiable.!
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