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    So you are buying the KX3? Congratulations! I look forward to reading your reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevice Reamer View Post
    So you are buying the KX3? Congratulations! I look forward to reading your reviews.

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    thats the current plan. working out details today, with luck, it will be delivered either friday, saturday or monday. i may actually go pick it up myself, since they are local. it seems whoever designed the crating knew this would have to fit through apartment doors.. 28" wide


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    That crate will weigh about 500 pounds. You will want to round up some help. I hope your apartment building has an elevator.

    A flat dolly comes in handy to roll it around.

    Are you going to reinforce the apartment floor? Maybe a sheet of 3/4 inch plywood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevice Reamer View Post
    That crate will weigh about 500 pounds. You will want to round up some help. I hope your apartment building has an elevator.

    A flat dolly comes in handy to roll it around.

    Are you going to reinforce the apartment floor? Maybe a sheet of 3/4 inch plywood?

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    crate is said to weigh 400lbs, machine is 375. i have a dolly and a helper to get it loaded safely in the elevator.

    so no issues getting it inside. it will sit on an mdf sheet on top of a foam dampening layer to both protect the floor and dampen noise. i wont be using the stand which is included because it seems to act as a resonator making the machine noiser. ill be boulding out a temporary mdf cabinet to keep the swarf and noise in. it wont be doing much heavy duty work while its in here and will be cutting dry.


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    Good show! I see you have planned everything well. Please let us know how it all goes.

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    I too ordered a KX3 look alike from Novakon, got my quote in october before they raised the price so I paid 4795 for the mill I also paid for the computer to be installed inside the driver box. I'm glad to hear that they actually have them there at Novakon, I assume you live in canada then. Just waiting on my shipping info right now. I was looking at the Syil as well and I could have picked one up in person and saved some shipping but their product seems like it has too many issues for the price and if I had wanted a buggy machine I would have just done a conversion myself. I want a machine that will run and not be more of a project than the projects i want to do. I have a sieg X3 manual mill and have been happy with it and know its limits so hopefully I'll be just as happy with this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uptoolateman View Post
    I too ordered a KX3 look alike from Novakon, got my quote in october before they raised the price so I paid 4795 for the mill I also paid for the computer to be installed inside the driver box. I'm glad to hear that they actually have them there at Novakon, I assume you live in canada then. Just waiting on my shipping info right now. I was looking at the Syil as well and I could have picked one up in person and saved some shipping but their product seems like it has too many issues for the price and if I had wanted a buggy machine I would have just done a conversion myself. I want a machine that will run and not be more of a project than the projects i want to do. I have a sieg X3 manual mill and have been happy with it and know its limits so hopefully I'll be just as happy with this one.
    yeah, im in toronto canada. both me and a friend have been looking at getting small mills for years. weve gone through all the ideas of scratch building, converting, buying.. even getting a "real" machine and a shop space to put it in.

    its a shame these little machines werent readily available years ago.

    my visual inspection of the machines - running up the spindle, jogging, checking for noticable play, tells me they might work out just fine. they didnt have much in the way of sample parts because they had just set the demo machines up recently for a training class they are starting soon.

    to me though, they struck me as very promising, and much better than i was expecting based on reading about syil machines (just isnt much first hand kx3 data out there). so we'll see how nice it ends up once i get it home. im going to run a series of tests to check alignment, acuracy and repeatability. im going to also determine flex in in the machine to basically get the "limits" of how far it can be pushed and still maintain finish quality and precision. im a bit of a noob in all this. i know alot about machinging, cnc, and such, but have never run a mill myself - always paid other people to do that. will be a fun learning experience for sure.

    so you ordered in october and havent recieved yours? is that because they were waiting for the shipment to come in. it came yesterday morning

    i need to find a good cheap source of R8 tooling now. ive got 2 "cheap" tool suppliers in walking distance... sadly they are missing the "good" aspect


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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    i need to find a good cheap source of R8 tooling now. ive got 2 "cheap" tool suppliers in walking distance... sadly they are missing the "good" aspect
    If you are serious about production, you should invest in the Tormach Quick Change tooling:

    http://littlemachineshop.com/Instruc...SheetRev-B.pdf

    http://www.tormach.com/Flash/TTS_small.html

    http://littlemachineshop.com/product...itFast=tormach

    You don't have to start with a full set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevice Reamer View Post
    If you are serious about production, you should invest in the Tormach Quick Change tooling:

    http://littlemachineshop.com/Instruc...SheetRev-B.pdf

    http://www.tormach.com/Flash/TTS_small.html

    http://littlemachineshop.com/product...itFast=tormach

    You don't have to start with a full set.

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    ive been considering that for the future. for the moment im just looking to get a few tools for early testing.

    i just need a fly cutter, an ER20 collet chuck, and a bunch of end mills in various configurations for the first few weeks.


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    I got my quote in October but didn't actually make the order until this month. I ended up mailing it in so it took a little extra time. I have the Tormach tooling already but I haven't used my machines much in the last few years, but I'm starting to get back into machining though. I'm more afraid of the CAD side of things than the machine, because I haven't had much exposure to it.


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    What did you think of the metal stand, does it look fairly sturdy? The machine comes with the stand but I may end up building a stand like the Tormach site shows on how they built a DIY stand from 2x4s, plywood, body filler and epoxy paint for their prototype machine. It has built in wings for chips and coolant collection plus the way they finished it you can't even tell it's made of wood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uptoolateman View Post
    What did you think of the metal stand, does it look fairly sturdy? The machine comes with the stand but I may end up building a stand like the Tormach site shows on how they built a DIY stand from 2x4s, plywood, body filler and epoxy paint for their prototype machine. It has built in wings for chips and coolant collection plus the way they finished it you can't even tell it's made of wood.
    the stand was ok, they had the kx1 on it and it seems to amplify the noise of the spindle. its not a very heavy duty stand, but not crap either. the chip tray for the machine is somewhat small though compared to the massive one on the tormach. it also has a table guard which seemed ok but too low to be really usefull. probabaly something i will remove.


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