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Old 03-17-2009, 01:53 AM
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Benchtop Monster is Born - Harbor freight 44991 / 33686 Hybrid CNC Conversion!!!

Well,
This project has been in the plans for over 2 years and finally I got around it. From solid works to fully functional in less than 6 weeks in spare time.

About the machine:
I wanted to use my existing square column HF 44991 but wanted larger and more rigid table. I have ordered replacement table for HF 33686 round column mill (table, cross slide, base, way guides - $260 shipped on a ship from China) that has table surface of 29 x 9 inches, and married the two.

Mechanics:
  • 5/8" x 0.200" rolled ball screws on all axis
  • Two ball nuts with adjustable preload (0-125lb) on each axis for backlash elimination
  • Custom bearing block with preloaded twin angular contact bearings
  • 480 oz-in steppers
  • HobbyCNC 4-axis controller
  • Toroidal 40VDC 20A power supply

I have successfully ran Mach 3 at 125ipm rapids using unipolar HobbyCNC controller configured for max output - 3A. Initial observations show that the hybrid is substantially more rigid. I was able to attain mirror finish in 6061 aluminum, faster cutting, and substantial reduction in noise. Following "hybridization", final table travel:
  • X - 22in
  • Y - 8.5in
  • Z - 12in

I will install the Z axis for which all parts will be machined using 2D CNC operations with manual control over Z. I will also install an extension on the spindle head to make use of 8.5in of Y travel - stock unmodified 44991 results in 6.5in of travel due to removal of pivoting mechanism which took up over 2 inches of travel....limit switches are soon to follow, soft limits for now.

Cost of conversion if you were to start from scratch:
$499 - HF 44991 square column mill
$260 - HF 33686 table
$50 - separator plate
$40 - precision ground cast square
$210 - screws and 6 nuts
$50 - steel and aluminum
Total: $1,109

And about $5K worth of tools in your garage

Keep in mind that to get absolute backlash-free quiet and reliable movement, precision of bearing block is of paramount imprtance. So is the actual twin ball nut assembly which consists of preloader, retainer, fixator, etc...Cost of making anti-backlash twin ball nut assembly is approximately $45 versus $170 if you were to buy one.

Future things to come:
1. Pneumatic power draw bar
2. Automatic tool changer
3. Lathe attachment
4. And of course, videos!!


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very cool idea, definitely makes the x2 alot more capable. I bet costs could be greatly reduced if you were to just buy the head and column assembly from littlemachineshop. Did the the "screws and 6 nuts" really cost $210?!
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by idtkid View Post
very cool idea, definitely makes the x2 alot more capable. I bet costs could be greatly reduced if you were to just buy the head and column assembly from littlemachineshop. Did the the "screws and 6 nuts" really cost $210?!
Ball screws and ball nuts...
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oh hahahaha i was thinking bolts and nuts :P

What do yo think is the least rigid part of the machine?
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Unique idea. I'm sitting here kicking myself saying - why didn't I think of that?!?!

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That's very good thinking !

Nice Job !
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:26 AM
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Wow you were able to get that table for $260? Great find !!!! I think it would be even greater to use an X3 column and head with that table !!!!
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That's a HECK of a lot better than what you would have gotten from cncbridges,
good thing you got your refund early.
I thought about that back then too and got prices from grizzly but they were MUCH higher,
I'll have to remember HF from now on.
How long did it take to get the parts shipped?
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Looks like a witch doctor shrunk the poor guy's head but I LOVE it. Do you have any pictures of how you pulled the head out from the column?
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:07 PM
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Excellent!

Please post plans, blueprints and detailed parts list.
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That's different. I thought alot about how i wanted to make the next best X2 but i realized with the machinery I have access to and knowledge, I might as well make my own Mini VMC. Anyway good work looks good.
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Please post information on where to buy the table and the part numbers too.

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