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Machining Anodized Aluminium
I need to machine some anodized aluminum. The slot drill I used in an experiment was ruined quite quickly.
Are there any special types of cutters (commercial) made for this application ? Or do you have to make your own special tools ? Or alternative/special techniques ? (The aluminum I am using is 1.6mm angle) |
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The anodize surface is very thin, but extremely hard. Carbide cutters will be required. You also don't say what alloy of aluminum is under the anodize. If it's an extrusion, the aluminum may be a soft alloy that doesn't machine well. In which case I'd use lower RPM, lots of coolant and a light feed. Contrary to what we're all taught about aluminum, but the conventional wisdom is for more friable alloys like 6061, 2024, and 7075.
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I anodize for our department at Virginia Tech. Professors do not always remember all of the things they want when the aluminum is machined.
We mostly use 6061 and 6063 extrusions for machining. These can be machined after regular anodizing (Type II). If it is hard coat anodized (Type III) the surface has the hardness of sapphire and will deflect the bit! Your problem is the metal is so thin it is moving under the bit. Back the angle with something hard , like a piece of hardwood or a scrap of Delrin. Make sure your bit is sharp and use something to keep the aluminum from sticking to the bit. We use WD40. The metals that are impossible to machine are in the 2000 series, like electronic miniboxes. I have even tried subjecting them to dry ice to firm the aluminum, but no luck. This alloy has a high copper content. I do get a sick feeling when I do a premo anodizing job then see it go back to the lathe/milling machine/drill press. |
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machining anodized aluminum
All extrusions are made for the 6000 series aluminum. We use 6061 and 6063.
I anodizes real well. I should know, I am the one that does it! The problem is the piece has no rigidity because it is so thin. You need to support the piece to mill it. Also, a mill drill bit does not have enough slope for milling aluminum. Aluminum bits have a very slow ramp. You should use on for aluminum and a two cutter style. Use a lubricant as aluminum will weld itself to a bit because of its softness. You piece is probably Type II anodized, the most common. If, by chance it is Type III, you will have problems as its surface has the hardness of sapphire. To do anything with Type III you usually have to grind the anodize off of the area. I makes me feel miserable when I do an A+ anodizing job and a professor made a mistake in his drawing. See the anodize being machined just does me in. Fred Mahone |
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I haven't done a lot of milling of anodized aluminum but what I have done has never caused me a problem. I just use standard HSS end mills.
One thing to watch is what alloy of aluminum you are trying to mill. I have run into problems with the likes of 5052 grade alloys which are a bit softer so the can be bent without breaking. When I have tried to mill this, I end up gumming up the cutter and ruining them quite quickly. The best solution that I have found is to go a bit slower and use a lot of coolant. |
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De-anodizing
How important is the anodizing in the area to be machined? You can quickly remove it by dunking it into a lye solution (caustic soda). This chemically eats away the anodized layer which is extremely thin. Do not leave it too long since it will continue into the underlying aluminum as well. Need some experimentation. Be very careful with caustic soda solution, it is very aggressive to clothing, skin, and especially eyes. Wear eye protection. Rinse the job well in fresh running water afterwards.
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HELLO,
I've machined a lot of alu. parts that were anodized and when we had very thin parts all we did is sandwitch the part between two pieces of alu., you can also use two pieces of scrap "anything" as long as it is ridged to support your part. If you are cutting a slot, use a carbide cutter with two flutes that is center cutting, and do a (ramp in) cut. keep plenty of coolant on the cutter and you won't have any problems. Your feed should be about half the recommended feed rate and the same sfpm, as a regular cut. If you can't sandwitch the part you'll have to use a cutter which is a right hand cut with a left hand helix, that's about the only chance you'll have to do this operation without getting felx, and having the part move away from the cutter. Hope this helps rruybal |
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Hello,
I am trying to cut 3/16" AL H32 5052 and I was thinking to use this: http://www.toolstoday.com/p-5801-alu...uter-bits.aspx I was thinking about tool # 51508 What do you think about it? I am using a plasma table converted to a routing table. Also - what kind of lubricant should I use and where to find it. This would be my first time doing this and I'm sorry if I ask too many stupid questions. Appreciate your help. |
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Cutting AL.
Hi,
Before you buy this tool go to the link below and take a look at this tool it has a very high helix which is great for cutting AL. and it won't cost you as much. The problem with routers is the way their ground. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PARTPG=INLMK32 As you can see this cutter has a great deal of clearence which is what you need to cut ALUMINIUM cleanly. If the part isn't ridged you'll need to stiffen it up. There are several coolents you can use, but I recommend Hangstfers S500 CF, you'll find it at the link below. http://www.hangsterfers.com/ Good Luck and let me know how it works out for you. rruybal |
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rruybal
Thank you for the input. It all looks good except the fact that I need to be able to make holes too. The one that you recommend has a square end. Any ideeas? Thank you |
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The tool
Hi Bud,
I forgot to mention that this tool is called a center cutting endmill, that means the flute on one side is ground past the center. So it will cut easelly on a plunge cut or ramp cut without building up preasure in the middle of the tool. These endmills are designed to work in this application. When you use it to make holes just take it easy when you plunge straight down and you won't have any problems. I've used these endmills for a very long time and never had any problems with them, except when I've stacked parts together and tried to plunge through 5 or 6 parts. The endmill leaves a round thin slug that may get between the parts if there stacked. (Not good if your trying to hold a total tolerence of .0005 on location and size.) Hope this Helps rruybal |
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It absolutely did .... I will go for this no question about. I will not stack the material so I'm not worry about it.
Now so I understand - what is the main difference between what I was looking for - and what you showed me. I am just trying to undestand. According to these guys this gives you a "mirror" finish. can this be achieved ? The router that I use is a B&D 1 1/4hp 25,000 rpm max who accepts 1/4 tools. Is this any good ? Funny - I thought that I will be thrilled with plasma - but I guess the router part is nicer ![]() Thank you |
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