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Old 03-12-2004, 01:47 PM
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Home made steel melting furnace

Anyone ever considered making a small Siemens-Martin furnace? It is a regenerative furnace which basically means you use a heat exchanger to extract heat from the exhaust gas and use it to heat the inlet air prior to combustion. The temperatures get as high as 17-1800 degC, enough to melt steel.

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Old 03-12-2004, 02:45 PM
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It sounds interesting. How difficult is it to make?
Would it work with Stainless?
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Old 05-29-2004, 08:53 AM
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Hot enought to sinter alumina too. Usually the refractories are exotic and expensive. I've been thinking about it for some time but I put it on the backburner. If it can be done cheap I'll be in it.

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Old 10-29-2004, 05:43 PM
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Can you post any of the info you have. I have an aluminum fournace but i would like to melt iron. The only inexpensive alternative i have seen is a copula fournace which uses diffrent layers of coke and metal ingots in a large stack to melt the iron. There are some really neat coatings out now that are unbelievably durable to heat, making the construction with exotic refractories unnecessary.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:15 AM
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check out this site www.backyardmetalcasting.com

he has alot of info on melting iron and has links to other sites with even more info. for melting stell they make a 3500 degree F refractory but it is expensive depending on where you buy it. I was also told that refractory has a limited shelf life.

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I used to have plans from the old days for a steel furnace using an electric arc. I never did build it and have since lost the pamplet that it was in. It looked dangerous but fun. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has built anything to melt steel in. Scott.
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:46 PM
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Steve Chastain seems to be the guru of the cupola furnaces. Lindsay books has his book for sale. I am sending away for it soon. I'll let you know any "new" ideas that book can give.



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I've heard or read, that steel is not very "pourable" for casting purposes. Cast iron, by contrast, flows really well.

Steel is much better suited to forging (ie., shaping with machined dies or a hammer) to bring it around to the right shape. Also, the forging process (any kind of hot work process) reduces grain size in the steel.

Just thought I'd throw that in, as something for you to consider before you get all set up in the steel making business
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I've heard of steel being cast, but I believe it is done under a vacum. The hot metal must be protected from exposure to oxygen.
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Yes steel must be protected from oxygen and can be quite difficult to cast due to the amount of heat needed to melt it. The ITC line of coatings only reflect heat back into the melt making the furnace more efficient. We cast steel at the foundry I used to work at a few years ago and it was a real PITA. In most cases it is easier to learn how to weld and build what you need from commonly available stock.

Cast iron is much easier to cast as it will literally flow like water when molten. While casting metal is by no means safe cast iron is a little safer due in a large part to the temp. differences.
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Check out this site....
http://www.buildyouridea.com/foundry...ilding_r2.html
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Better also check this out www.foundry-fopars.co.uk there is an extencive section on cast iron there, and done with propane
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