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I guess he didn't want anyone to know he is going out of business.
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Has anyone else contacted John Taylor to verify if he is seeking to sell shoptask. I can't locate the thread that I saw today.
I guess he didn't want anyone to know he is going out of business.
there maybe a god after all.
I think he will be roasting where he is going. Norvil I think we finally got justice. He could have just made things right and he wouldn't be where he is right now.
I spoke with John Taylor yesterday after I saw a post here that said he was selling the company. He said that he wasn't selling.
As to the quality problems which two of you keep referring too, that would explain his move to have the Patriot manufactured in an ISO 9001 certified plant. He apparently wasn't safisfied with quality and moved to upgrade his product quality.
I just spoke with Grizzly manufactuing about a lathe and mill which they are advertising. Available in July........maybe. And they aren't manufactued in an ISO 9001 certified plant.
I have used several Jet lathes and each of them had to be disassembled, cleaned, reassembled, and adjusted before they would run well and maintain accuracy. The two individuals who performed this work have a combined 75 years as machinist. Experience and skill turned Jet junk into jewels.
John Taylor apparently has 22 machines in transit, but like everyone else is experiencing delays with shipments from China. He has moved to upgrade quality above that of other companies selling larger and more expensive individual units by moving his operation to the ISO 9001 certified plant.
I think that original thread was false and done by one or more of the perrennial whiners. If it were true, you would think they would be happy at the prospect of someone new taking over the company since their issue seems to be with JT himself.Originally Posted by Roadster
You have to stand up to your product and cover your warranty's and JT has failed to do so. As for false posts I cant say since there are so many here I cant tell anymore.
Some guys are so blinded by frustration that they can't see a good deal coming. I'm sure that investing all his money in a car company that went bankrupt and is on the verge of being sold to the Chinese doesn't brighten his day either.
You had a bad casting and it was replaced with a repaired unit...not new. I spent 16 years in purchasing for equipment which included machines which cost up to several million dollars. Our contracts called for spares of specific quantities. Castings were considered no wear items so the spares were few if any. It was not uncommon for the vendor to replace cracked or defective castings with repaired units.
The vendor, Shoptask, apparently followed accepted practice with his replacement to you. If you weren't satisfied, you had the option to return the entire machine for a refund less shipping. Did you attempt to return the machine for a refund less shipping under the terms of the warranty, which you knew in advance, or did you simply keep the machine?
Another poster gave his machine away. Norvil. Did you attempt to return your machine to the vendor under the terms of the warranty? That was your option which you knew in advance of purchase. Did you attempt to clean and adjust the machine as is accepted practice with non ISO 9001 equipment from China in an attempt to achieve expected accuracy and performance? Do you have the technical expertise to perform such maintenance on this type of equipment to achieve such performance without damaging and diminishing the capability of the machine?
The owner of Shoptask, to his credit, realized the quality issues with his machines and moved his operation to a ISO 9001 production facility.
Have either one of you used the Patriot machine produced in the ISO 9001 certified facility?
I had a brand new machine . It was sent with a welded casting. It leaked. He sent me a casting that had been sitting around for years. It was cracked. I had to use my own money to fix the casting. I had no help from John Taylor.He did nothing for me except try to pawn off another bad casting to me for a brand new machine. You have not read the post through have you.
I've read your post. Did John Talylor have any way to know that the original casting was defective prior to you receiving the machine?
He apparently has listened to customer complaints, successfully fixed most problems, and even moved production to a factory with higher quality control standards to provide a better product.
Apparently, you fixed the problem and your machine is fixed now. Perhaps your situation helped with his decision to move his production to an ISO 9001 certified facility. I imagine that John Taylor and owners of the new Patriot appreciate your input to Shoptask.
I know some people's intention was to harm Shoptask and you may have done slight damage. But like any truly conerned owner, it seems the owner of Shoptask took constructive action to produce an better product. The new Patriot uses Meehanite castings which are superior to the castings in the older machine.
Give yourself a little credit. You probably are somewhat responsible for helping create a better product.
If its Chrysler you are talking about, you're right. The Chinese are working the sidelines on this one. Fiat will get a 20% stake in Chrysler with a loan from US taxpayers. The Chinese are poised to buy up the Jeep brand from the Italians. The Jeep Cherokee has been built in China for near 20 years now and they have the experience necessary. This whole scenario has caused the book value of Jeeps to drop by 50% since 2007 and more to come. Inexperienced young buyers may buy a China Jeep or a Fiat-Chrysler, but anyone who remembers the Fiats of the 1970's will avoid them like the plague.
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