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Old 03-25-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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Sanyo Denki and Panasonic AC servo motor specs needed

Hi
I have recently come across two large Sanyo Denki motors and a Panasonic motor that I need to find information about.
The Sanyo Denki motors have model numbers BL Super 68ZBM065HXS70 and ABS Super 68ZBM065HXJ70. They are both Japanese imports and unused and I would really like to be able to use them. I have contacted both UK distributors, where I am, and also Japanese Sanyo Denki, both of whom just suggested buying more modern motors and that they couldn't give me any more information. Does anybody either know what the specs are for those model numbers, know what the model number codes stand for or if there is a way of determining the specs without an information sheet.
I have also acquired a Panasonic MBMK062ELE1, which is also a Japanese import and I cannot find any English language information, so if anyone has any, I would love to hear it.
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Laurence
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Originally Posted by lawmate View Post
Hi
I have recently come across two large Sanyo Denki motors and a Panasonic motor that I need to find information about.
The Sanyo Denki motors have model numbers BL Super 68ZBM065HXS70 and ABS Super 68ZBM065HXJ70. They are both Japanese imports and unused and I would really like to be able to use them. I have contacted both UK distributors, where I am, and also Japanese Sanyo Denki, both of whom just suggested buying more modern motors and that they couldn't give me any more information. Does anybody either know what the specs are for those model numbers, know what the model number codes stand for or if there is a way of determining the specs without an information sheet.
This is only a guess, but it's based on a full Sanyo Denki BL Super brochure from 1988 that I was able to acquire five years ago via the extremely friendly Sanyo Denki representative in Finland.

I have a couple of 65BM010HXE00 servo motors and 65BA015DDK01 drives that I might put in my old Bridgeport BOSS 5 project. The funny thing is that I bought the servos four years before I was able to find a good enough mill for them, so I had totally forgotten about them until last week when I found the essential information from my hard drive and the dusty servos from my storage shed...

OK, my guess follows, divided into parts:

68-Z-BM-065-H-X-S-70
68: 68 series servo (pancake type, short and wide – 65 means the long and slim motor type)
Z: no idea, probably means a newer version of the original BL super servos
BM: BL Super series motor
065: Maximum continuous torque 6.5 Nm (max stall torque about twice that)
H: Maximum speed 3000 rpm (B would mean 2000 rpm)
X: No brake
S: No idea (this letter likely denotes the encoder type, E means a 2000 ppr encoder)
70: Engineering revision type

The other motor has almost the same type number, so the difference probably is in the encoder part (resolution, absolute vs. incremental, or something).

The drives you probably need are of the 68(Z)BA030Dxxxx type, where the 030 means 30 A current and D means position control (step/dir or CW/CCW input whereas V would mean analog voltage input). In the old brochure, the 30 amps drive was specified for the 6.5 Nm motor.

I might be able to put the brochure online for the community, as it can't be found online anywhere. In 2005, I actually asked for more information from Wexon (the Finnish Sanyo Denki distributor) and the were kind enough to dig up the brochure for me, maybe from Japan. They sent me a fairly good quality scan that even has the essential drive and encoder connections – only the possible DIP switch settings of the drives are still unknown. But the file is quite big for emailing, 8 megabytes.

Hope this helps (or at least gives the feeling)
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Hi Corhoin
Thanks a lot for your info. I thought it might be a lost cause searching for info on that motor, especially as all the distributors I contacted had basically said that the motors are obsolete and all I could do was buy new ones.
If I could get a copy of that brochure it would be much appreciated. I'll send you my email address. I hope your conversion goes well. I have been wondering what to do with mine too. A friend that I work with makes interactives and was thinking about using them for an interactive moving bridge that he wants to make. I don't have a milling machine nearly big enough to warrant motors of these size. Maybe I should keep them though for when I do!
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Laurence
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Originally Posted by Corhoin View Post
This is only a guess, but it's based on a full Sanyo Denki BL Super brochure from 1988 that I was able to acquire five years ago via the extremely friendly Sanyo Denki representative in Finland.

I have a couple of 65BM010HXE00 servo motors and 65BA015DDK01 drives that I might put in my old Bridgeport BOSS 5 project. The funny thing is that I bought the servos four years before I was able to find a good enough mill for them, so I had totally forgotten about them until last week when I found the essential information from my hard drive and the dusty servos from my storage shed...

OK, my guess follows, divided into parts:

68-Z-BM-065-H-X-S-70
68: 68 series servo (pancake type, short and wide – 65 means the long and slim motor type)
Z: no idea, probably means a newer version of the original BL super servos
BM: BL Super series motor
065: Maximum continuous torque 6.5 Nm (max stall torque about twice that)
H: Maximum speed 3000 rpm (B would mean 2000 rpm)
X: No brake
S: No idea (this letter likely denotes the encoder type, E means a 2000 ppr encoder)
70: Engineering revision type

The other motor has almost the same type number, so the difference probably is in the encoder part (resolution, absolute vs. incremental, or something).

The drives you probably need are of the 68(Z)BA030Dxxxx type, where the 030 means 30 A current and D means position control (step/dir or CW/CCW input whereas V would mean analog voltage input). In the old brochure, the 30 amps drive was specified for the 6.5 Nm motor.

I might be able to put the brochure online for the community, as it can't be found online anywhere. In 2005, I actually asked for more information from Wexon (the Finnish Sanyo Denki distributor) and the were kind enough to dig up the brochure for me, maybe from Japan. They sent me a fairly good quality scan that even has the essential drive and encoder connections – only the possible DIP switch settings of the drives are still unknown. But the file is quite big for emailing, 8 megabytes.

Hope this helps (or at least gives the feeling)
Hi,

I am looking for the manuals for the Sanyo Denki 65, 67 amd 68 series servo drives, you wouldn't happen to have them? and possibly email them to me?

Mick
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