Heavy vice lifting

[Pat2000]

Hi folks, how many of you are fed up lugging vices and other lumps of cast Iron on and off your machines, I've done this for ten years at the same place of work and I'm getting a little peeved and feeling the stain.

on another note , what do you folks do to prevent rust forming between machine bed and vice - I usually use slideway oil but I'm not convinced this is good practice!!

Pat

[Geof]

Originally Posted by Pat2000 Hi folks, how many of you are fed up lugging vices and other lumps of cast Iron on and off your machines, I've done this for ten years at the same place of work and I'm getting a little peeved and feeling the stain. on another note , what do you folks do to prevent rust forming between machine bed and vice - I usually use slideway oil but I'm not convinced this is good practice!! Pat

Here is my solution: Super MiniMill Vise/Rotary Changeover

Regarding the rust I find the best is a very thin film of vaseline. I have tried lube oil, grease and cutting oil and they all stain more than vaseline

[Zumba]

Buy or make a crane. Geof's design is very cool with the articulating arms. I may just have to copy it. I'd probably drill/tap a plate for the arm to bolt to, and then clamp that plate in the vise. 1/2" A36 or 1018 would be the material of choice.

Try LPS-3 for rust. When exposed to air, it dries into a waxy substance, very much like cosmoline but not as annoying. When trapped between the vise and the table, it stays liquid. What I do is spray the entire table with LPS-3, mount the vise, and then spray everything again, especially the seam between the vise and the table. I get sort of a waxy fillet which prevents coolant from getting in underneath. If coolant manages to seep through, it's blocked by the thin film of liquid LPS.

[js412000]

I don't lift vises, any more, way too heavy for me! Then there is always the big gorilla who takes the vise off the machine and puts it away on the BOTTOM shelf, under the work bench, nearly impossible to get out without back strain. In a pinch, I can lift a vise from a mill table to a work bench top,on the same level. I lift it with both hands behind my back, the vise resting on my but. That way I use my strong stomach muscles, without straining my back.

[jackson]

Originally Posted by Geof Here is my solution: Super MiniMill Vise/Rotary Changeover Regarding the rust I find the best is a very thin film of vaseline. I have tried lube oil, grease and cutting oil and they all stain more than vaseline

that is almost exactly what i am looking for my idea was almost exactly the same, i will make it so that i can roll it from one machine to the next i have two of these indexers i dont have to take them off very offten but when you do they are frikkin heavy, Thank for showing that forum

[jackson]

Just thought i would share this

[jetski]

How about a cheap engine lift from China and a piece of steel with a taped hole in it for an eye bolt. Works wonderful when clamped tightly. I had a disk taken out of my back, 3 hernias, and a bitter devorce. I just through the devorce in for laughs. I don't lift or date anything heavy. Just some rules from an old tool maker.

[ConKbot of Doom]

I use a forklift for everthing heavy at my work... 700lb aluminum fixtures...

but given that this is on a 5' by 10' machine, space isnt too much of an issue.

At the last place I worked at, we used an engine hoist and eye bolt, and a threaded hole on top of the tombstones to move around the tombstones/pallets.

[jackson]

Originally Posted by ConKbot of Doom I use a forklift for everthing heavy at my work... 700lb aluminum fixtures... but given that this is on a 5' by 10' machine, space isnt too much of an issue. At the last place I worked at, we used an engine hoist and eye bolt, and a threaded hole on top of the tombstones to move around the tombstones/pallets.

Yeah a forktruck is out of the question i have 8 machines and no room to get a fok truck around the machines good thing i run all small parts LOL!!!

[jetski]

I wish I had the room for a fork truck. I have to leave the tool room to change my mind. Our tollerance is so tight we can only have one engineer in the room at a time. 2 cnc, 1 band saw, 2 surface grinders, 1 elox, 1 mig, 1 tig, 2 tool boxes, 2 benches. Tool hall as it is refered to is 14' x 30'. No fat tool makers allowed. If I put on 5 pounds my helper has to loose 5 just so we can pass by each other. And for God Sakes Don't Fart! cause you can't get away from it.

[jackson]

Originally Posted by jetski I wish I had the room for a fork truck. I have to leave the tool room to change my mind. Our tollerance is so tight we can only have one engineer in the room at a time. 2 cnc, 1 band saw, 2 surface grinders, 1 elox, 1 mig, 1 tig, 2 tool boxes, 2 benches. Tool hall as it is refered to is 14' x 30'. No fat tool makers allowed. If I put on 5 pounds my helper has to loose 5 just so we can pass by each other. And for God Sakes Don't Fart! cause you can't get away from it.

now thats to funny at least for us that are reading it

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by jetski And for God Sakes Don't Fart! cause you can't get away from it.

That is why some genius made a Compressed Air Tank and Air Gun, LOL. So you can send stuff like that "Back to Whom Dealt It".