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[mace]

Rekd
I asure you once you've gotton in there and are doing basic toolpaths you will be overwelmed with how well you can control your tool to do exactly what you want with great ease you just need a little coaching and that will be pronc and myselfs job.

[Rekd]

Ok, here we go...

I've gone thru the pre-drill avi and saw a surface, (point cloud actually) being drug with the mouse around a point, changing the vortex of the surface where the drill goes in.. (ref. predrill_bmx.avi at about 75-80% from start). Very interesting for prototyping or customizing blends etc...

Also, the interface looks somewhat similar to Cimitron in function and navigation. (I've made some nice trodes with Cimitron, very capable and hard to learn software..) I can imagine the versitility just by looking at some of the menus displayed in the avi files and reading some of the doc files.

..get started I hope to have you trained in under a month..

You've definately got my attention, but damn that learning curve...

'Rekd

[hardmill]

I want to see

PEACE

[mace]

I am wondering how you guys are doing with the training manuls and info i sent you do you enjoy it are you more interested now than ever ?

Or not ?

Mace

[hardmill]

Very cool Mace,
As soon as I have a little morre time to spend w/ it I'll post

PEACE

[ssaults]

The place that I work has pre-e and master cam both. I am not impressed with the cam side of pro-e. the programer tried to get good tool paths and did most of the time. but it took a lot of time. So we looked at master cam to do 2d parts in the shop. We got a 30 day evaluation. In that 30 days the guy in the shop ( with out any experience with master cam or 3d programming ) was programming all the parts 2d and 3d. Now we use pro-e to design with and master cam to machine with.

Is master cam better than pro-e? NO! Was it better for us? Yes.
It let the designer do the desinging and the shop do the machine programming.
For us master cam was better for machining Than pro-e.

[mace]

ssaults
The thing is in a modern day machine shop programmers are facing the task of modeling the part from a print many goverment organizitions will not give solid models to venders for the fact of security.
So if you want to stay in bussiness these days you better have someone that can design and model parts, fixtures quickly and accuratly so that it will not effect your quote.

I know there are easier progams out there then pro e, But pro e is meant for the serious manufacters that need a one stop software one that does it all from design to controlling the cmms that inspect the parts

If i did not no how to design and solid model a part in an advanced software I would not have a job after all it is the year 2003 we all need to stay up to date in technolgy or China and India will take all the work from the U.S.A.

If i could offer some advice to your programmer that uses MasterCam.
Keep At It in Pro e It will all come together someday and it will benifiet him and your company.

[ssaults]

Mace,
Thanks for the reply. We have 3 seats of pro e that we design with but we let the shop do the programming they know how they can machine the part better than the designers. They know what tool they have what each machine can do ect. When we tried to use pro e for both design and machining the shop was waiting for programs or for the programs to be changed, so that slowed the slowed the shop down. Know we have one man programming for 2 pro e designers sometimes 3. Most of the time designers are not the best at machining (but not all the time).

I was doing the MasterCam programming I did it for over 1yr. now I am one of the pro e designers. pro e is VERY GOOD at design. I have over 15 yr. machining experience not much design experience so I am slow at it. The one that is doing the MasterCam programming now is new at programming as I was.
he is picking it up fast, a lot faster than I am pro e.

My point is for us MasteCam in the shop was best for it is easy to learn and use.

THanks.

[cadcam]

As for Cadcams statement " any system will machine those same toolpaths. "

Please show me this post from which I made this statment.

I do not remember or see this statment from me.

thanks cadcam

[wms]

Jay,

Post #3 from Cadman not cadcam.

I think he just mistaked you for cadman.

[mace]

Yea sorry
I did think it was cadcam sorry man
mace

[cadcam]

I just wanted to make sure ,that for some dumb resion that I did not make such a statment.
Just did not seem like me..

[mace]

all along i was thinking it was the same person once again my Apologies
mace

[pronc]

ssaults,

yes, i used to have the same thought. for 2 years all the mastercam users in here were fighting with management to resist pro/man. now we are proe all the way. from design tooling, mold, detailing to programing soon cmm (i hope). few weeks ago a senior member told me he tried to use mastercam just for fun and couldn't do it. he said he so used to parametric world now.