CHALLENGE TO ALL NC PROGRAMMING AND NESTING USERS. EXPOSE YOUR CURRENT PROVIDER

[Optimation]

Of course, I have not recieved any response from ANY programming and nesting software provider in answer to my challenge to put their product up against ours.

So, I am going to ask all of you users of such software to post your grievances against you current provider and to allow us to compare our product to theirs. Let us all know what problems you are having, the issues you are having with lack of capabilities, failure to manage types of machinery and processes, etc. with your current provider and compare it with our technology.


Scott
sbooty@optinest.com

Optimation®

www.optinest.com/cd

[Khalid]

provide ur software free to all of the 'users of other softwares'..They will use it and will post the comparison

[svenakela]

Yes, why not, if your software is so good, why don't you show it to others instead of bashing around?
If you want to gather information about your competitors, this is not the way to go. It doesn't matter if it's the greatest software - to me you have already gained a bad reputation.

This thread has nothing to do with any kind of product announcement, so if you can't give a presentation of your newly released or updated software, I will delete it as spam.

Regards,
Sven

[traveler]

This is a great Idea. How about sending me a free copy of yours and I will acess it myself as the first examination.

[mexico.redsail]

Ok, im in, where is ur software to compare it ????

[bindilab]

Besides being a very strange post, your "Come to Jesus" comment is foolish. Blaspheme is not a wise thing and offensive to followers of Christ.

[LeeWay]

The thing I want foremost a firstly out of software is the ability to download a trial version. All of my current software has this ability. Does that leave yours with a check mark in the negative column already?

[Optimation]

Leeway,

"The thing I want foremost a firstly out of software is the ability to download a trial version. All of my current software has this ability. Does that leave yours with a check mark in the negative column already?"

Our software is fully customizable to each individual companys processes and equipement. Therefore, we do not issue "canned" trial software. If you would like to arrange for an online demonstration of our software and further, do a benchmark against your current method of producing parts, I would be glad to do so. And, no, I do not believe that this leaves ours with a check mark in the negative column.

bindilab,

"Besides being a very strange post, your "Come to Jesus" comment is foolish. Blaspheme is not a wise thing and offensive to followers of Christ."

The phrase, "Come to Jesus Meeting", is a ruralist phrase that simply means to come to a meeting in which the truth will be revealed. I understand that it originated in religious camps in the 19th century. Anyway, I have removed it from my post. Blasphemy was never my intent.

Khalid,

We do not produce "canned" software. Our software is fully customizable to each individual companys processes and equipment, it is impossible to do that. I will provide online demonstrations and benchmarks against all other methods of producing parts. Free of charge of course.

svenakela,

I am simply trying to get to the truth of what others have to offer and to show how it compares to our product. It is agressive, I know.

"Yes, why not, if your software is so good, why don't you show it to others instead of bashing around?"

I will provide an online demonstration for anyone that wishes to see our software. And then, provide a benchmark for comparing material utilization. All free of charge. We don't have a plug and play software package. Ours is customized to each companys processes and equipment types.


"If you want to gather information about your competitors, this is not the way to go."

I am not trying to gather information about my competitors. I am trying to compare their capabilities to ours.

"This thread has nothing to do with any kind of product announcement, so if you can't give a presentation of your newly released or updated software, I will delete it as spam."

Please see the following link as was originally posted. It is a demonstration of the new technology, AxiomVE™, that is the foundation of our nesting engine. It is a new product announcement.

Scott

sbooty@optinest.com

www.optinest.com/cd

[OzDragonflyer]

I also believe in the demo/trial based software marketing approach. Most people won't have the time or motivation to be shown the capabilities of a new piece of software by a company rep, and possibly expose themselves to hype and sales pressure.

You also state that your software is fully customisable by your company. This can be a big step backwards as the best selling packages allow the user to perform their own customisations according to their machines and needs.

Reminds me of some business software where the initial program purchase is tiny compared to the cost of follow up support.

All in all, if large companies like mastercam,solidedge etc can offer demos/trials of their software (which cost many 10's of thousands of dollars in some cases), why can't you?

If your software is so innovative and priced reasonably, people will flock to buy it.

cheers

david

[LeeWay]

Feel free to show me a video of your software doing something incredibly simple. Import a DXF file. Correctly.
This would do two things. Let me know that this is legitimate software that is user friendly and it would reveal the interface.

As for nesting, Sheetcam does it fine for me. Just how much better than quick and easy does your software nest?
I don't have to call for or pay for support. I don't want any hand holding once I have purchased the software. I want to be able to do what I want with the software from start to finish myself and my way.
What would be good is a public forum where I could search for answers to trouble spots with the software rather than pay thousands a year on support for an apparently already expensive package. Is it not enough that you guys drive to the beach in your Hummer? Now you want the speed boat too?
What would really impress me the most is if your software were under $1000 and that it worked as advertised, which is still kind of mysterious to me.

Since you are in such a challenging mode, I challenge you to show just a quick and dirty video of your software importing a dxf and then making just one duplicate as a nest. Our time is valuable as well, so to save time, just post it here.




PS Does anyone know of any other software worth it's weight that won't let you have a trial to manipulate yourself? I do own some right now that is this way. It's called Windows. I don't want to travel that road anymore than I have to.

[cncwhiz]

I run pro engineer and their sales people spew the same garbage? I would not buy or even test software from a company that has your approach? I have had enough somke blown up my #$$ it over the years. People on this site are for the most part hobby guys and don't want something that "you" have to customize?

[Independent CNC]

Scott, please send me a single part program for a Salvagnini S4 (SDE or SDEX) with parametric program that will allow users to adjust the size of part based on the length and width. Fully generated from Optimation NO manual edits.

Before you ask… Yes the software that I use can do this.

If Optimation is unsuccessful please let everyone know…

Independent CNC Programmer
www.ctcn.net/~3kings/

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