supplying the best stepper driver with lowest sale price

[dertsap]

, there is no competing with a company like gecko,ive seen numerous drivers that always tend to compare themselves to gecko ,
look in the forums and all the products and see which ones have the most threads , mastercam then gecko ,and for good reason,
for a product to up and fall out of the air from nowhere and decide to start competing with the best isn t going to compete if the price isn t competitive ,competitive pricing means offering a price that will sway a buyer to take a risk rather than buying the safe competitors product , when a person is looking at buying 3 or 4 drivers +shipping ,the figures add up ,
most people aren t willing to take a risk on an unknown product when they can pay a little more for what everyone knows is the best ,
ive read a few posts in this thread that says geckos are $150
the 201 $114
looked at ebay lately , its flooded with cheap priced drivers

i am sure you have a nice product and it sounds quite interesting but you can be dealing with a tough crowd here ,and to break into this market your going to need to decide if you can afford to make your product available in a way that people would want to test it without too much of a financial risk ,other than that your market will stay in China

[Jason Marsha]

Well said dertsap.


Kevin au,
PM me a pricelist please.


Jason

[katzass]

Chinese Translation
High accuracy step 进电 machine and driver The entire series high performance step 进电 machine and the driver 1, the driver uses internal frequency multiplication technology which the unique control circuit, high subdivides, all imports the component (including binding clamp and outer covering), outward appearance novel unique, volume small, the weight is light; 2nd, has the high accuracy, the noise is low, vibrates small, the redundant reliability and the high response frequency and so on Detailed information: Center creates the day attendance step 进电 machine and the driver reference price list (2004-9), 2 step of 进电 machine drivers (mixed style) the model interphase current (A) the supply voltage (V) refers to the price (Yuan) the model interphase current (A) the supply voltage (V) to refer to the price (Yuan) Q2HB24M 2 DC12~40 488 Q2HB88M 0.5~8 DC18~80 1,400 Q2HB44 0.5~4 DC12~40 475 Q2HB613 0.4~6.4 DC30~130 1,100 Q2HB44M 0.5~4 DC12~40 950 Q2HB613M 0.4~6.4 DC30~130 1,500 Q2HB68 0.5~6 DC24~80 880 Q2HB110 0.5~8 AC60~130 1,800 Q2HB68M 0.5~6 DC24~80 1,280 Q2HB110M 0.5~8 AC60~130 1,920 Q2HB88 0.5~8 DC18~80 1,020 Q2HB220 0.5~8 the AC60~230 2,130 notes: After the model the sign has MA/MC the expression to have 12 grades to subdivide, the most greatly thin score is 200 (namely every time transfers 40,000 step of, each step of 0.009); The sign has MB/MD the expression to have 8 grades to subdivide, is biggest 128 subdivides; The non- M expression does not subdivide (namely 整步/half step of movement, each steps of 1.8 /0.9). Second, 3 step of 进电 machine drivers (mixed style) the model interphase current (A) the supply voltage (V) every time transfers the biggest step external dimensions (□) to refer to the price (Yuan) to suit electrical machinery Q3HB64M 0.5~6 DC12~40 60,000 136./82/25 million 1,250 three-phase mixed style Q3HB110M 0.3~5.2 AC40~110 30,000 1.78/108/36 billion 1,980 Q3HB220M 0.3~5.2 AC110~220 60,000 2.00/146/8 billion 23,203, step 进电 machine (mixed style) the model torque (□ □) the interphase current (A) the weight (□) the external dimensions (D*L mm) the axle diameter (mm) suitably matches the driver reference price (Yuan) BS42HB33 1.580.950.22 phi 42×33 phi 5 Q2HB44\44M 140 BS42HB38 2.591.20.28 phi 42×38 phi 5 Q2HB44\44M 140 BS57HB41 3.920.45 phi 57×41 phi 6.35 Q2HB44\44M 168 BS57HB51 7.230.65 phi 57×51 phi 6.35 Q2HB44\44M 175 BS57HB56 930.7 phi 57×56 phi 6.35 Q2HB44\44M 185 BS57HB76 13.531 phi 57×76 phi 6.35 Q2HB44\44M 280 BS86HB65 2541.2 phi 86×65 phi 9.5 Q2HB68\68M 672 BS86HB80 4042.3 phi 86×80 phi 12.7 Q2HB68\68M 770 BS86HB118 6063.8 phi 86×118 phi 12.7 Q2HB88M 1,000 BS110HB99 10,055 phi 110×99 phi 16 Q2HB110M 1,190 BS110HB115 12,066 phi 110×115 phi 16 Q2HB110M 1,260 BS110HB150 20068.4 phi 110×150 Phi 16 Q2HB110M 1,470 BS110HB201 270811.7 phi 110×270 phi 16 Q2HB110M 1,960 BSHB364 4.55.20.5 phi 57×42 phi 6.35 Q3HB64M 320 BSHB366 95.60.75 phi 57×54 phi 6.35 Q3HB64M 380 BSHB368 155.81.1 phi 57×77 phi 8 Q3HB64M 420 BSHB397 205.82 phi 85×69 phi 12 Q3HB64M 720 BSHB3910 405.83 phi 85×97 phi 12 Q3HB64M 850 BSHB3913 605.84 phi 85×125 phi 14 Q3HB64M 1,200 BSHB31112 802.55 phi 110×125 phi 19 Q3HB110M 1,320 BSHB31115 1203.56.6 phi 110×148 phi 19 Q3HB220M 1,560 BSHB31118 1603.759 phi 110×182 phi 19 Q3HB220M 1,680 BSHB31122 200411.1 phi 110×216 phi 19 Q3HB220M 1,760 BSHB31318 200414.1 phi 130×183 phi 24 Q3HB220M 1,860 BSHB31322 280417.2 phi 130×215 phi 24 Q3HB220M 2,130 BSHB31325 350419.8 phi 130×247 phi 24 Q3HB220M 2,320

[miljnor]

what?

You didn't understand that?

[Drakkn]

Originally Posted by kevin_au dear sir, you get the point! frankly speaking, it's true that our driver has no midband resonance damping function. in another word, why Gecko use such technology in the driver? the final result is that there is no low speed vibration. so we can focus the main topic to the low speed vibration in the motor. even though chinese driver has no midband resonance damping technology built in the driver, but with another different technology we can make the driver works smooth in low speed situation, it's OK, regardless of what technology you take, only if we can improve, or eliminate the low speed vibration, it's OK, right? except the midband resonance damping fuction, chinese driver really can compare with us driver in performance, following I list a brief introduction of the driver Q2HB68MG/H: 1. DIP switch resolution setting with 12 different value, range from 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 20, 25, 40, 50, 100 and 200 resolution (for Q2HB68MG) 2.DIP switch resolution setting with 8 different value, range from 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 and 128 resolution (for Q2HB68MH) 3. Driving current is continuously adjustable from 0.5A/phase to 6A/phase. 4. Short-voltage protection, when input voltage less than DC24, LED indicator turns RED; 5. Over-voltage protection, when input voltage more than DC96V, LED indicator turns RED; 6. Coil-ground short circuit protection, protection will be activated in case of short circuit between motor coil and ground 7. Over-heat protection, when driver temperature high to 70 centigrade, driver stops work, until temperature low to 50 centigrade, driver works again 8. Automatic idle-current reduction 9. PUL/DIR & CW/CCW pulse mode selectable 10. No build-in selection inside the driver case by the way, you're right that in documation and support, due to the language and distance, it's true we cannot comparable with local us supplier! anyway, we're polishing the driver manual now until the english website is workable thank you very much for your valuable words

Kevin_au please pm me with prices

[kevin_au]

Originally Posted by dertsap , there is no competing with a company like gecko,ive seen numerous drivers that always tend to compare themselves to gecko , look in the forums and all the products and see which ones have the most threads , mastercam then gecko ,and for good reason, for a product to up and fall out of the air from nowhere and decide to start competing with the best isn t going to compete if the price isn t competitive ,competitive pricing means offering a price that will sway a buyer to take a risk rather than buying the safe competitors product , when a person is looking at buying 3 or 4 drivers +shipping ,the figures add up , most people aren t willing to take a risk on an unknown product when they can pay a little more for what everyone knows is the best , ive read a few posts in this thread that says geckos are $150 the 201 $114 looked at ebay lately , its flooded with cheap priced drivers i am sure you have a nice product and it sounds quite interesting but you can be dealing with a tough crowd here ,and to break into this market your going to need to decide if you can afford to make your product available in a way that people would want to test it without too much of a financial risk ,other than that your market will stay in China

dear sir,

we don't want to compete with Gecko, but phantomcow2 mentioned Gecko's with mid-band resonance damping and I have to say something abuot it. actually no comparision between two different drivers with two different technology.

By far Gecko is the best for you because you have not touched new drivers.

As far as I know, many U.S. mechanisim used 5056 and 8078 from Kelling, both 5056 and 8078 comes from China, if you used these two drivers, perhaps you will not say Gecko is the best in performance and price.

our driver comes from China also, so we do well know that 5056 and 8078 and our drivers not bad than such two.

Anyway, even though I say many many words here, you have no idea about our driver because you did not feel the performance.

[dertsap]

Originally Posted by kevin_au dear sir, Anyway, even though I say many many words here, you have no idea about our driver because you did not feel the performance.

you by far under estimate the people you are talking to ,the whole world knows that China is flooding the market with cheap priced products ,

many of the forum members have lost their jobs or companies because everything is being done in China for a fraction of the price ,
which means you are being supplied the drivers for a mear fraction of the price your trying to sell them to us ,
don t try to fool me either some of my friends are importers of Chinese products
why would we want to take a risk on a product nobody has heard of when it is near the price of the best driver on the market , there doesn t appear to be a warranty offered and you still don t have even have a website up , how can you expect anyone to send money to an unknown company which is over seas ,
tell you what ,
i have a new 40" sony plasma tv i bought at well below cost because i work in the factory ,i bough two freight loads , brand new in the box , i can sell it to you for $500 US i will even provide free shipping to anywhere in the world ,
give me a day or two to get my website up and running ,and in the meantime you can pm me and i will tell you where to send your money to , please cash only


don t get me too far wrong , your driver would be graciously welcomed but you need to start somewhere and you asking a lot for something that noone ever heard of
i just think your going about it all wrong

[Athreo 1]

Kevin Au,

Could you possibly have one of your drivers on display, working, at the next CNC Convention this summer in Illinois so we can feel the performance?