Internet Search Engines

[widgitmaster]

Because GOOGLE is so young to the internet and has become so popular in such a short time, I was just curious as to how dependant the CNCzone members were on GOOGLE!

Five years ago, it was AltaVista that had the popularity, and MSN has been trying to buy their way into popularity. As for web page placement, well that depends purely on content and HTML accuracy! (Keywords relivant to page content) Most other search engines are really small indexes of their choosen topics, and don't have multiple servers hosting multiple spiders to scan every item on the internet with the power of GOOGLE!

For years, YAHOO was a closed Index, and no other external spiders or search engines were allowed to index their content! It was only a few years ago that YAHOO dropped their draws and let GOOGLE in!
I do not know if YAHOO is still human edited, as it origonally boasted to be, but most of their index is so huge even they could not organize it! GOOGLE has helped them as well!

Most people who surf the web are not aware of the remote control software that roams the web 24-7, that the software is called robots and spiders! That each search engine has its own or many of them looking for new content for their public search results!

[Switcher]

maybe they're all the same, but it would nice along with all the commercial accounts they want to promote that they peppered search results with some grassroots stuff before you get to page 300.

Just because you do a search on Google, (say a search for cnc) and you get 40,200,000 hits, doesn't mean you will have 40,200,000 webpages to pick from. The search for "cnc" will let you go only as far as page "85" on the actual search.

I only use Google, (habit I guess).

When I do a search, and I don't like what I find by page "5", it's time to change the words in my search.



From Google website : http://www.google.com/help/features.html

Google's spell checking software automatically looks at your query and checks to see if you are using the most common version of a word's spelling. If it calculates that you're likely to generate more relevant search results with an alternative spelling, it will ask "Did you mean: (more common spelling)?". Clicking on the suggested spelling will launch a Google search for that term. Because Google's spell check is based on occurrences of all words on the Internet, it is able to suggest common spellings for proper nouns (names and places) that might not appear in a standard spell check program or dictionary.

So... I guess If 1 million people misspell a word, Google will recommend
that wrong word! (DOH!)




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[gar]

060607-1318 EST USA

Mcgyver:

Yes you do need to use various search engines.

Here is an experiment you can run:

The search string is --- CNC "spindle grinding" --- without the ---s.

Google 1360 hits
Yahoo 501
MSN 678
ASK 470
Altavista 499

You will see similarity and differences.

One of the techniques with Google is to put in a search string, search for it, then pick ADVANCED SEARCH and change 10 results to 100. This will put 100 results on one page, and you can scroll these quickly compared to paging. Also this way you can effectively use the Microsoft "Edit" "Find" in Internet Explorer to search for words on this page.

The trick to finding things is to pick on the correct words and word strings for your search string.

Now try --- "wilson p. tanner" dec 7 1941
On my site search for tanner to find the discussion.
Google, Yahoo, and Altavista only find my site
MSN finds my site and a second one with no relation to the subject.
ASK is worse with its second pick. It should not pick items with tanner alone.

To find what you want with search engines you need to play with words and groups of words for your search string.

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[ImanCarrot]

I only use Google, probably as a previous poster said "out of habbit". I used to use "Ask Jeeves", but eventualy their quality went downhill (in own my opinion).

[bishb25]

I avoid Google like the plague! It NEVER finds what I'm looking for and most of the time it's not even close.

Yahoo usually has what I want on page 1.

[bishb25]

I avoid Google like the plague! It NEVER finds what I'm looking for. Most of the time it's not even close.

Yahoo usually has what I want on page 1.

[Switcher]

Google is the best!

If you know the Google hacks, you would be surprised how deep into a webpage Google digs (no joke!)

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[ahotrodder]

I avoid Google like the plague! It NEVER finds what I'm looking for. Most of the time it's not even close.

Yahoo usually has what I want on page 1.

WOW, you must be on your death bed from the plague, otherwise you would NEVER know what is on Google or that it is not even close?!?!?!

I use Google most of the time, but I do use others just to see what comes up and most of the time it is the same stuff, maybe just in a different order.

[bishb25]

Jab away ahotrodder, you know what the saying means.

[widgitmaster]

I avoid Google like the plague! It NEVER finds what I'm looking for. Most of the time it's not even close.

Yahoo usually has what I want on page 1.

Actually, YAHOO is NOT a search engine, its search is limited to the YAHOO index! Google was added to Yahoo a few years ago to expand its limited scope !

Yahoo does not have spiders (software that searches every server) that look outside the Yahoo servers. Also, most of the data in Yahoo is so old and obsolete that they were in danger! That's why they accepted Google's assistance!

Google has the most advanced search spiders ever created, they surpass all other search engines by ten! One of the advantages in Google is that they accept BOOLEAN LOGIC instructions at the point where we enter our search criteria!

Example:

Search for [ Bill -Clinton ] will exclude all occurrence's of Clinton from the search results.


Widgit

[bishb25]

I really don't care how limited Yahoo is. It finds what I'm searching for better than Google. If I type in the make and model of a Motherboard Yahoo usually includes the manufacturer's website on the first page of search results (at least in past searches I have done). Google usually (for me anyway) only includes websites that want to sell me that Motherboard or that happen to reference that board in some benign way. I suppose they are both doing their jobs, but if one were to prioritize search results one would think that the manufacturer's website would be high on the list.
Please keep in mind I only hold to this personal preference based on my own experience. Yahoo behaves in a way that I like. Google does not behave in a way that I like as much. I know there are "hacks" that you can use in the search bar, but why "hack" (aka- hassle ) if you don't have to?

Praise Google all you want, but until it meets my personal needs better than what I'm using now I'm just not going to use it until works better for me.