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    CandCnc + Powermax 45 + Machine Torch =

    Hello

    I am hoping to get VERY VERY specific instruction on how to hook up my CandCnc DTHC into my PowerMax 45 that is using a Machine torch. Attached is a pic of a DTHC, numbered indicating connections. I can't get this to attach the pic, here is the link http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...THCdiagram.jpg

    On the DTHC I need to hook up:

    (1)TIP VOLTS POS goes to ________
    (2)TIP VOLTS NEG goes to _________

    (3)Arc goes to_______
    (4)OK Switch goes to__________

    (5)Torch Switch goes to _______
    (6)Torch Switch goes to________

    I have read many threads hooking the DTHC up to the PM45, but I haven't seen the install instructions precisely step by step written. Also, is there going to be any conflict using a Machine Torch with the DTHC? I ask because I think I have primarily read threads with modified Hand Torches being used.

    Thanks,
    Eric


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    Quote Originally Posted by brouser1 View Post
    Hello

    I am hoping to get VERY VERY specific instruction on how to hook up my CandCnc DTHC into my PowerMax 45 that is using a Machine torch. Attached is a pic of a DTHC, numbered indicating connections. I can't get this to attach the pic, here is the link http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...THCdiagram.jpg

    On the DTHC I need to hook up:

    (1)TIP VOLTS POS goes to ________
    (2)TIP VOLTS NEG goes to _________

    (3)Arc goes to_______
    (4)OK Switch goes to__________

    (5)Torch Switch goes to _______
    (6)Torch Switch goes to________

    I have read many threads hooking the DTHC up to the PM45, but I haven't seen the install instructions precisely step by step written. Also, is there going to be any conflict using a Machine Torch with the DTHC? I ask because I think I have primarily read threads with modified Hand Torches being used.

    Thanks,
    Eric
    There will be no conflict using a machine torch.

    I have at some point read CandCNC's instructions on the hook up but can't tell you what you need to know from memory.

    If you didn't get a hard copy of instructions in the box with your product from CandCNC, If you will go to their Yahoo groups help site & look under the "files" section you should be able to find them, download & print the instructions.
    If it works.....Don't fix it!


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    Thanks for the reply, but CandCnc does not have specific instructions for the PowerMax 45.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brouser1 View Post
    Thanks for the reply, but CandCnc does not have specific instructions for the PowerMax 45.
    Tom will most likely be on the board sometime over the weekend. I'd say he'll answer your questions when he sees the post.

    Jim Colt can probably also help you. He also will most likely be on sometime.


    If the HT45 hooks the same as HT 1000, HT 1250 etc. there should be several others that can help you through the hook up.

    I'll be watching I am going to have to do the same thing with a HT 1250 G3.

    Sorry I couldn't be more help at this time.
    If it works.....Don't fix it!


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    Yeah, Jim is great. He has helped me with a lot of questions already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brouser1 View Post
    Hello

    I am hoping to get VERY VERY specific instruction on how to hook up my CandCnc DTHC into my PowerMax 45 that is using a Machine torch. Attached is a pic of a DTHC, numbered indicating connections. I can't get this to attach the pic, here is the link http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...THCdiagram.jpg

    On the DTHC I need to hook up:

    (1)TIP VOLTS POS goes to ________
    (2)TIP VOLTS NEG goes to _________

    (3)Arc goes to_______
    (4)OK Switch goes to__________

    (5)Torch Switch goes to _______
    (6)Torch Switch goes to________

    I have read many threads hooking the DTHC up to the PM45, but I haven't seen the install instructions precisely step by step written. Also, is there going to be any conflict using a Machine Torch with the DTHC? I ask because I think I have primarily read threads with modified Hand Torches being used.

    Thanks,
    Eric
    1- goes to j21 on the main board inside the unit.
    2- goes to j17 on the main board inside the unit.

    3- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    4- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one to 12 and the other to 13

    5- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    6- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one 3 and the other to 4.



    You have to buy a special cord from hypertherm to use the connector for the back or you can buy a 796271-1 amp connector and some pins form Newark for about $30 and make your one if you have terminal crimps. Thats what I did.


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    Bigtoy302. Thanks for the response. I could not go past generic hookups for the 45. I have a 1000 G3 and our DTHC manual has the actual connection points and numbers for that specifc model. The names are the same but the connection points are different. There are hundreds of plasma brands and models our DTHC will work with and having specific step by step for each one is impossible.

    If you can contact me direct I have a proposal for some trading for you if you are interested (I need a light duty press brake). I would also like to post your photos and response on the CandCNCSupport Yahoo Forum for future reference.

    One side note: The START line inputs at the rear connector don't work to fire the torch with a hand torch because of the safety lockout.

    I tried to download the 45 service manual from the Hypertherm website so I could at least give wire colors for the hand torch switch BUT I could not get the PDF to download (at least using Firefox) and it would not let me do the "Save Link As" direct download trick. If anybody has the manual with the schematics for the 45 in PDF format let me know and I will trade you a Custom Embroidered CandCNC Logo Denim Machinest's Apron if you e-mail me the document. Contact me BEFORE you e-mail so I can give you an address with a larger inbox.

    Thanks again

    TOM caudle
    www.CandCNC.com


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    Heck Tom, I'll get you that doc for free.....it downloads just fine for me.....however it is a pretty big file.

    Also.....you can call Hypertherm tech service and they will tell you the exact loactions to find plasma start (if using a hand torch) and Raw DC voltage .

    Jim


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    Just wanted to correct the info posted below in regards to proper connections for a Hypertherm Powermax45 for cnc and thc.

    The raw DC voltage connections on the main board inside the unit are:
    Positive is J21, Negative goes to J19 on most Powermax45's, however the 400 Volt CE units use J18 for the Negative raw voltage connection. Be carful attaching wirs to these points so that your ring terminals do not short to other traces on the PC board.

    The Arc Transfer output connections (also know as "arc good", "machine motion", etc) are pins 12 and 14 (not 12 and 13 listed below) on the rear panel connector of the Powermax45.

    The plasma start input connections are pins 3 and 4 on the rear panel connector. Note that pins 3 and 4 will not work as the plasma start input when the hand torch is attached to the Powermax45. There function works only with the machine torch for safety reasons.....the hand torch has a trigger switch on the handle.

    All of these connections can be found in the Powermax45 service manual available for download from www.hypertherm.com

    Jim Colt


    [QUOTE=Bigtoy302;744682]1- goes to j21 on the main board inside the unit.
    2- goes to j17 on the main board inside the unit.

    3- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    4- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one to 12 and the other to 13

    5- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    6- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one 3 and the other to 4.
    QUOTE]


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    [quote=jimcolt;746217]Just wanted to correct the info posted below in regards to proper connections for a Hypertherm Powermax45 for cnc and thc.

    The raw DC voltage connections on the main board inside the unit are:
    Positive is J21, Negative goes to J19 on most Powermax45's, however the 400 Volt CE units use J18 for the Negative raw voltage connection. Be carful attaching wirs to these points so that your ring terminals do not short to other traces on the PC board.

    The Arc Transfer output connections (also know as "arc good", "machine motion", etc) are pins 12 and 14 (not 12 and 13 listed below) on the rear panel connector of the Powermax45.

    The plasma start input connections are pins 3 and 4 on the rear panel connector. Note that pins 3 and 4 will not work as the plasma start input when the hand torch is attached to the Powermax45. There function works only with the machine torch for safety reasons.....the hand torch has a trigger switch on the handle.

    All of these connections can be found in the Powermax45 service manual available for download from www.hypertherm.com

    Jim Colt


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtoy302 View Post
    1- goes to j21 on the main board inside the unit.
    2- goes to j17 on the main board inside the unit.

    3- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    4- goes to pin 12 or 13 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one to 12 and the other to 13

    5- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    6- goes to 3 or 4 on the rear connector on the machine.
    Connect one 3 and the other to 4.
    Ya, that's what I meant. I must of had a dyslexic moment. I would edit the post but for some reason it will not let me.


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    Any one know where to get a connector for the Powermax 45 interface. Is there a Digikey part # ? Ive jus got wires pushed in for now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo_cnc177 View Post
    Any one know where to get a connector for the Powermax 45 interface. Is there a Digikey part # ? Ive jus got wires pushed in for now.
    Here is the amp part number. I bought mine from Newark for about $20
    796271-1


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