CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Electronics > PicStep Controllers


PicStep Controllers Discuss PicStep Controllers here!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 08-07-2009, 06:48 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
Picstep DRAGON custom w/PMinMO BOB

I am building from scratch all electrical for my build. I should have been completed with the first Picstep board by now but Digikey forgot to ship my resonators and I'm waiting till the replacements arrive sometime in the next 4 days.

Here is my progress so far:

I started by laser transfer and did a custom mix for the etching solution. It turned out pretty nice as you can see from the pictures. I won't go into too much detail here as you can find many videos on the transfer process.
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2941.jpg
Views:	152
Size:	93.6 KB
ID:	85865Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2942.jpg
Views:	172
Size:	108.4 KB
ID:	85866Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2943.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	88.7 KB
ID:	85867

Next, I drilled all the holes using a nice dermal drill pack I found (LINK). I think I paid about $10 for the 7 pak. I used the two smallest bits for the component holes and the largest for the screw downs in the corners. They are the smallest I could find at my local home centers. It turns out these are EXACTLY the perfect size.

I placed the bits in the my press and drilled away:
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (2).jpg
Views:	132
Size:	63.2 KB
ID:	85855Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (3).jpg
Views:	118
Size:	49.8 KB
ID:	85856Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (5).jpg
Views:	142
Size:	91.4 KB
ID:	85857Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (8).jpg
Views:	118
Size:	65.6 KB
ID:	85858

Came out nice. I looked over the board with a glass to ensure there was nothing 'fishy' with any traces.
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (10).jpg
Views:	111
Size:	83.5 KB
ID:	85859Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (12).jpg
Views:	112
Size:	90.5 KB
ID:	85860Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (14).jpg
Views:	116
Size:	84.7 KB
ID:	85861

Once all the holes were done I cleaned the board and prepared for the next step. My custom screening graphic.

(Continues...)

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-07-2009 at 08:14 AM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 08-07-2009, 07:04 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
DRAGON build (continued)

I have been trying to find a way to get a pro screen effect on my DIY boards. I came up with this process after trying out some ideas on my PMinMO 4 axis (LINK) and I think I found the fastest, nicest & easy way. You be the judge.

I went to the computer and for some reason I got stuck on a DRAGON theme. I went through my sketches of dragons but none were transferred to computer just yet. Since this was just a concept I didn't want to spend too much time agonizing over it but I had some basic ideas of what I wanted. After all, I was not quite sure how this was going to turn out.

So after searching and searching I found a nice one at AMD's website. What's nice, is it's open source (i think) so that's even better!
Here the link to the download page: AMD Fusion Press kit

I choose this one:


Now time for the magic:
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2944.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	98.2 KB
ID:	85863Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2946.jpg
Views:	206
Size:	75.8 KB
ID:	85864

I played around with layout and colors. Added textures, the Picstep logo, board overlays and of coarse gave credit to Alan for creating the board in the first place.

And now, because of this graphic, my board is known as the "Picstep DRAGON - fusion 4.0".

(Continues..)

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-07-2009 at 06:36 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 08-07-2009, 09:02 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
DRAGON Picstep Driver Build (cont)

So having a rough idea at this point I went back to the PCB.
After measuring and adjusting I knew it would be best to prepare the top side of the PCB with color. This would allow a nice boarder around the screen if it happened to be too small.

To prepare the PCB I cleaned and sprayed it with professional/industrial enamel. Flat black. This stuff is strong and is meant for tools and heavy use.
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (15).jpg
Views:	124
Size:	68.6 KB
ID:	85876 Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (16).jpg
Views:	109
Size:	99.4 KB
ID:	85877 Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (17).jpg
Views:	132
Size:	84.5 KB
ID:	85878
**It dried flat and VERY VERY SMOOTH**

Once that was finished I did multiple coats of spay on lacquer. It dries smooth and quick. I probably did a total of 4-6 layers.
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (18).jpg
Views:	102
Size:	95.5 KB
ID:	85879 Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (22).jpg
Views:	101
Size:	97.2 KB
ID:	85880 Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (19).jpg
Views:	120
Size:	96.5 KB
ID:	85881
It dried perfectly smooth. These photos were taken right after first spray.

In the mean time I printed a few final drafts of the screen I liked. One RED version and another not-so-complete dark GREY version. I pinned them to my easel and began to use the same lacquer to coat the graphic. I did 10+ coats and left it over night to dry.
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3022.jpg
Views:	128
Size:	53.2 KB
ID:	85882 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3021.jpg
Views:	197
Size:	51.7 KB
ID:	85883
**This one in the photo is not the final design. This was a backup just in case I ruined the RED one.**


NEXT: How to print the screen properly to get the BEST effect (continues..)

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-07-2009 at 07:30 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 08-07-2009, 09:04 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
DRAGON Picstep Driver Build (cont)

Printing the screen/graphic:

I don't have some magic super trick here just some advice on making the print as professional as you can get. It really depends on what you have available. This was a trial an error for me so I'll just cover what worked and what was a waste of time.

First, I have a nice laser color and an HP photo printer. After testing both on regular paper they were pretty equal. The laser was a little more crisp but the HP had better depth of color. Overall both sucked as they looked like they were printed on a home printer. Also, I needed something that can take the lacquer coats and regular paper just comes out OK at best.

I tried some glossy paper for color laser and a glossy tri-fold inkjet paper I had laying around. Better but surprisingly not the best. The glossy was interesting and the lacquar seemed to take OK but it was a little more fussy due to the glossy coating. The search went on...

After looking around my local office supply I saw Avery (18665) (LINK) 8-1/2" x 11" clear sticker paper. Print whatever and stick. I was very excited. I did test it on a simple cheapo driver board I was playing around with. The first picture is of the graphic I experimented with and used.
Click image for larger version

Name:	McWire_Overlay_Flag_RockstarCNC_com_01.jpg
Views:	162
Size:	106.3 KB
ID:	85910 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3027.jpg
Views:	176
Size:	97.5 KB
ID:	85908 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3030.jpg
Views:	178
Size:	100.5 KB
ID:	85909

To me it was not that great. The 'paper/sticker' is very thin and smooth. It is not completely clear more milky really.
Also, the ink from the inkjet did not hold well on this 'paper/sticker' and the prints are somewhat washed-out. After I applied it to the board any errors, problems and colors I had showed through. Even with a thin coat of metallic paint for the base. It generally comes off grungy and is somewhat easy to smear as you populate a board.

Not to mention it was a real pain to peel, line up the holes perfectly and stick. Once this is down it's down.

At this point I knew what I was looking for. A premium grade heavy stock with limited gloss cover. This would allow for a continuous smooth cover on the board. Anything too thin and shiney will show any smudge, lumps or bumps and over all not worth the effort really. If you look close on the PMinMO 4 axis I used a clear spray-on Poly gloss coating on plain color paper. It turned out nice, has a cool shine but any flaw in the paper, spray, handling, backing glue, etc will show through. I needed something that was stiff, strong, printed fantastic and can take heavy coats of a spay coating. I went back to the office supple a little puzzled.

After buying a few packs of various HP papers I found what works best for me and this application. HP's premium matte presentation paper. Along with this same paper setting in the printer software I think I fell in love right there. Hands down this IS a fantastic printout. Another thing that increased the print was using the advanced printing functions in Photoshop. Photoshop has professional color controls for adjusting your prints. By increasing the saturation of the inks a little you could not tell these were printed at home. The quality is night and day over a standard color paper. This paper has very nice weight and took the lacquer wonderfully. No bleeding even on heavy coats. I could spill coffee on this thing and believe I could wipe it up and move on. It also remained flexible even after 10+ coats of MATTE lacquer.

So I would suggest using this paper if you can with an inkjet.
If someone has other suggestions I'm all ears.

(Continues...)

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-08-2009 at 03:47 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 08:18 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
Dragon Build Picstep (cont)

So at this point I had the PCB with a nice black finish, holes drilled and my final design ready.

This is the best way I found to line up the board with the holes. The following pictures are from the PMinMO 4 Axis build. I did the same for the dragon.

Just poke some reference holes in the screen and use tacks as posts to align it. I used a light spay on adhesive then removed the tacks and pressed it flat with a book or similar.

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2820.jpg
Views:	184
Size:	83.7 KB
ID:	85947 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2826.jpg
Views:	154
Size:	39.6 KB
ID:	85946 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2824.jpg
Views:	174
Size:	61.5 KB
ID:	85944 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2825.jpg
Views:	160
Size:	33.7 KB
ID:	85945 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2831.jpg
Views:	240
Size:	82.3 KB
ID:	85948 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2832.jpg
Views:	213
Size:	49.2 KB
ID:	85949

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG2847.jpg
Views:	215
Size:	79.8 KB
ID:	85950

Spray a few more coats, trim the paper to the board with a razor, touch up the edges with a nice sharpie and done.
I think you get the idea from the pictures.
Attached Files
File Type: zip Black_4axis_PMinMO_custom_ROCKSTARCNC_com.zip‎ (1.04 MB, 337 views)

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-08-2009 at 03:48 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 08:34 AM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
Picstep Dragon Build Continues

Ok so I hope I gave all the details I can on this. Here is the dragon after all this with the wire jumpers in place.

Click image for larger version

Name:	Picstep_build_DRAGON_RockstarCNC (57)small.jpg
Views:	271
Size:	88.6 KB
ID:	85951

And here at 90%:

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3033small.jpg
Views:	237
Size:	91.9 KB
ID:	85952Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3040small.jpg
Views:	228
Size:	77.9 KB
ID:	85953

Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 08-08-2009 at 04:03 PM.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 08-08-2009, 03:40 PM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 19,575
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

How about a higher res pic? Looks cool.
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 04:10 PM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
How about a higher res pic? Looks cool.
thanks. Sure. My camera blurs out when I get too close. It's at 10+ mega pixel though. I'm working on my PIC programmer now. I'll get a few more up close when I can today.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 08-08-2009, 05:14 PM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 19,575
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Try backing up and zooming in. Easier to focus that way.
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 09:37 PM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
Try backing up and zooming in. Easier to focus that way.
Here's some more pics. This is the best I can get with my Casio 10.1. I keep putting off getting a NIKON D3 or D700. Been waiting for the next long overdue vacation.

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3058.jpg
Views:	151
Size:	67.7 KB
ID:	86009 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3059.jpg
Views:	161
Size:	66.0 KB
ID:	86010 Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3063.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	62.7 KB
ID:	86011
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 09:45 PM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road

I was going to document the construction and testing of a DIY Pic programmer here. Is anyone interested in seeing this?
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #12   Ban this user!
Old 08-08-2009, 09:59 PM
JohnnyVegas's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 215
JohnnyVegas is on a distinguished road
Talking coffe spill

And just a little test. I've been known to spill my coffee on electronics..

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3074.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	64.8 KB
ID:	86012

Opps...
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3076.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	64.2 KB
ID:	86013
Damn...
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3077.jpg
Views:	73
Size:	47.4 KB
ID:	86014
It's ruined!!
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3080.jpg
Views:	74
Size:	36.1 KB
ID:	86015

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3082.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	59.7 KB
ID:	86016Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3083.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	58.5 KB
ID:	86017Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3084.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	80.4 KB
ID:	86018Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3086.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	64.1 KB
ID:	86019Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3087.jpg
Views:	103
Size:	42.8 KB
ID:	86020

I guess I could spill coffee on these things..
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Help!- Dragon Driver Model:29A55-A WeCheat Stepper Motors and Drives 13 08-15-2011 01:38 PM
Custom bending a custom extrusion brokenrinker Bending, Forging,Extrusion... 10 12-15-2007 09:28 AM
Pminmo electronics SCHootie Open Source CNC Machine Designs 13 02-23-2007 10:40 AM
Questions for pminmo dfro PicStep Controllers 0 07-01-2006 11:14 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:26 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353