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    my visa is with a credit union.
    I havent been looking for a router. after all of this I think I will build my own. I never looked at the shark it is to small for my needs.


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    my neighbor owns a romax cnc router. it is a very nice machine and a good honest company.give them a look.


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    Romaxx CNC

    I paid a visit to Romaxx before returning my PCNC Automation router. The difference between these 2 machines is like night and day. I had showed Ron (owner of Romaxx) some cuts made on the PCNC. He said the problem looked like something caused by a loose head assembly. After I told him how it was made (from bent up sheet metal with screwed on side plates) he said there really wasn't any way to improve the results. My head assembly would flex nearly .250". I tried to flex the head on his machine and there was absolutely no play that I could detect. The fit and finish and quality of components used in the manufacture of the Romaxx cnc router is outstanding. After I am sure that I am getting my money back from my cc company (on the PCNC Automation router), I will be ordering a Romaxx.


    Quote Originally Posted by ashgrimm View Post
    my neighbor owns a romax cnc router. it is a very nice machine and a good honest company.give them a look.


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    Hi All,
    mmcclung hit the nail right on the head! It is the head and wisecarver guides/bearings that give too much flex and it is nearly impossible for the darn PCnC router to do any good professional looking deep/ large carvings. I am having the steel bend head made out in aluminum but I still need to figure out how to stop the flop from the wisecarver Y axis rail and bearings. I noticed the rails can be adjusted but it takes a real slim wrench to do that?? I wonder if Bishop wisecarver includes that with the purchase of their bearings?? None of my wrenches fit between the wheel and nut and it is impossible to adjust?? Another Catch-22! ? I am glad to hear some of you are going to get your money back! I am glad the we are winning here, but what about us "LOSERS" that got stuck with a crap machine and have to spend more money on to improve it! I am a retired guy and $3000 is a lot for me so I do not think I can afford to just junk it and get a nice and shiny Romaxx. I looked at them and gee, I wish I had gotten that one only if I knew about it before. Good Luck to all of you who are fighting to get their money back and I want to hear from al the "Losers" who are stuck with a crappy machine and what they are doing to improve it!


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    Wisecarver sent me a utilitrak pdf and how to adjust them. You will need to take the bearings off. I know this because I wanted to adjust the center wheel on mine. You need a 10 mm socket according to their directions and you can't get at it unless they come off. I think the way to do this is adjust them before they are attached and them put them back on .


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    We need to spec out a replacement low profile linear guide that is tight.


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    Question

    I downloaded the pdf off wisecarver's site and it explains how to perform the fit-up adjustments, they should be performed while the carriage’s wheels are engaged with the channel. See attached pixs. Also notice the ultra thin flat wrench to fit between the bearing and rail, also you need a ultra thin walled socket wrench to fit in the nut hole..Those are special tools and I got to do some searching to find them. I wonder if it is worth keeping those UtiliTrak linear guides and guide wheels or should I invest in something better? Anyone have any ideas/pixs of a better linear guide and wheels?
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    I emailed the Bishop wisecarver folks to see if there is a replacement part better suited to this application.
    Last edited by luthier; 02-04-2010 at 06:13 PM.


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    Just in case Bill is keeping up with this, he needs to know the legal issues against him haven't dropped by the wayside. Not just with all the other law enforcement agencies, but most recently the prosecutor is looking over the documents provided.
    Bill, this certainly isn't going away...you are a cowardly thief, one that deserves serious jailtime.


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    I havn’t been watching the forums here much lately, so when I came across all this activity about PCnC, I was surprised to say the least. I am a owner of a 24 x 36, #R-1010, and while this is the first CNC machine I’ve ever bought and/or operated, I must say that I feel I’ve only had minor issues to over-come with it.

    Since there seems to be a interest in how people bought theirs I can tell you that I purchased mine through eBay, at which point Bill gave us a 3 weeks build/delivery time. There was only one delay of 10 days, during which Bill relocated from outside Dallas to southern Indiana. At which point it was easier and cheaper for my wife and I to drive down and pickup the machine directly then to have it shipped. I took the PC that was going to be used with the machine down there with us. Bill loaded Mach3 and the profiles and we ran the CNC and PC through their paces for about an hour while Bill tried to show me some of the features, (I say “tried” only in the fact that I was a newbie and didn’t understand a lot of the specialized terms he was using.) But I did leave there feeling that everything worked the way it should.

    I am very sorry to hear all the problems so many people are having getting their deliveries these past several months. I know that some people have called Bill a con man and while I won’t argue that one way or the other, I will say that when I met Bill, he seemed genuinely enthusiastic about building and selling these machines.

    Several folks have mentioned issues with the machines that HAVE gone out. I’d like to compile a list of them here. I may be having machine issues and have been passing them off as “operator error”, so I’d like to find out what the more experienced owners have to say. And please, if possible, include a picture with a circle around the part you’re referring to. I still get confused by a lot of the terms used.

    There appears to have been a few different versions of the rack-n-pinion used on Bill’s machines. My main issue was with the clamps of the “soft” rack-n-pinion system. The hard plastic clamps that hold the belt ends of the “rack”. (I’ll try to get a picture up later.) While I applaud Bill’s use of CNC machine to cut parts for more CNC machines; the plastic just isn’t up to the torque needed to clamp the belt ends and they bend (like most plastic) over time. Aluminum clamps would have been a much higher quality solution.

    So what other problems can I expect?


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    Guess you got a machine Bill and his buddies build when they were sober!
    You are lucky... Some got a good machine/Some got a fair machine/Some got a crap machine/Some got a used machine/and some paid in full and got NOTHING!
    Have a good machinist copy those plastic stops into metal ones, they are indeed better, work good and is a small/cheap fix!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ashgrimm View Post
    I waited about 105 days. my cc company lets you file up to 120 days. they filed acharge back with pay pal and pay pal closed the file after 12 days with no responce from bill. I have not heard anything official from my cc company but at this point I dont see how they can deny the charge back.
    Good luck to all. I hope there will be more positive outcomes.
    Ash... Did you hear anything from your CC/paypal yet? I ask because I have the same message now in my paypal account!!

    y2k


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