Anyone use PartMaker Mill-Turn Or Mill

[billcain]

Hi Joe,

You bring up some good points. I understand you want things to work as expected.

In Talking with Brian Disley, I also have some points to mention.

1. The most recent post versions were supplied at no cost to you.
2. To my knowledge, noone there has been formally trained to use PartMaker. These machines are as you know complecated. Getting trained in the software is important to get correct code.

That said, I will offer to help, but I will have to do some in my personal time as you are not on maintenance.

What I would like to do here is the following:

1. You guys program a part in PartMaker.
2. Send me the Job files you programmed.
3. I will review them, make changes needed and document them for you with full explanations.
4. I will send the files back with this information.
5. You run this on machine and let me know what the results are.
6. I will fix anything that needs to be fixed in the post.


My expectations are: If we notice that the main issues are because of lack of training, I expect to see your guys at training and your company back on maintenance.

If it does not seem like a lack of Training, but I help get you where you need to be, I also expect you to be back on maintenance which you will see we have continued to improve the software.

If after a reasonable amout of time your still unsatisfied, I will understand this.

Please however be patient as I will be doing this in my personal time.

You can email me at wcain@partmaker.com with the files and any questions.

Thank you Joe for allowing me to help you guys.

[billcain]

Hi Joe, Just checking to see if you got me email as yours was placed in my spam folder where I dont check often. Thanks

[JerryF]

I'm posting this as an interested observer. I started using Partmaker in 2002 and used it to program a variety of swiss machines and turn-mill machines, including a Tornos ENC-264 which never was an easy machine to program under any circumstances. We had a variety of unique situations that we had to do in the machines, especially with regards to unloading of completed parts.

While I won't say that that, in all cases, the posts created a perfect program out of the gate, I will say that Partmaker never once let me down. Each time an issue was presented to them, the corrected post was available quickly, sometimes that same day.

In the process I watched and learned while they made the changes, to the point that, using the post configuration software, I was able to make my own changes. In one case we added some unusual peripheral equipment to a Kia 21LMS trun mill that was controlled by M code. By then, I was easily able to modify the post myself to properly control those additions.

Let me also say that I've used more than one CAM system over the years. I started with Vantage, the predecessor to Esprit, moved on to Esprit, then Partmaker and MasterCam. All were good products, but they also all required an investiment of time to optimize the ability of the programmer to use them efficiently. Of all of them, I got to the proficient level the quickest with Partmaker. As is always the case when doing something of value, the end user has the responsibility to "get some skin in the game"

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them highly.

[ChristianK]

Agreed. You cannot expect partmaker to complete everything for you (unless its just turning/endmilling/drilling). When you think about the thousands/millions of variables these machines have you can only expect it to push out maybe 80% of the program, which in any case will save you hours of writing it out long hand. I personally use partmaker for assistance vs for full parts as I tend to customize my parts to the very max.

Plus, we didn't quite invest the time to totally optimize PartMaker. I'm sure it would solve many issues that I personally have. Still, the posts aren't perfect--nothing is.

[HACHY]

PLES ANYWERE A NEED HELP I FROM ARGENTINA I NEED TUTORIAL FROM SWISS CAM

[billcain]

We have a Reseller in Argentina. Here's a link to our Dealers.

Delcam - Local Support Offices

[HACHY]

but I need one that does not kill me with the price since I'm studying and need to learn to uzarlo for the company to buy it.

[billcain]

Best thing then is to sign up for our free webinars. You can do this at PartMaker CAD/CAM Software - The CAM system that assures success - www.partmaker.com

[h_lathe]

Partmaker works great for me!

I used to program Tsugami machines with it and now im working on lining out the post processor for Hurcos. if you know the code well enough you can do pretty much anything you need. I think people that have issues with the software not doing what they want are the individuals that don't realize that if you are going to implement a new software or a new machine into your facility there is always a learning curve. I do not care if you are a lathe expert, go from a haas, to a hurco, to a mori, to a mazak, they are all different in one way or another. most likely the post for partmaker isn't going to work exactly how you want out of the box, but it will be very close and with minor editing to the post, which i believe partmaker will do if you have maintenance. i know i used some macro stuff in my programs and they could even put that in the post.(they were very simple macros for cutoff) the moral of the story, if you are going to buy any new software, realize that it is different, and the way you programmed before will not match what you will do with the new software. the code may look different, but as long as you can comprehend the code, and it makes your part, who cares!!