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    How would you machine this out?

    Here is my first part, took me about 1/2 to draw. How would you machine it?
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    What you mind posting the file?
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    Here it is and remove the .txt
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    Paul, just zip the .xfa, no txt

    This piece will not be a problem for you.

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    I just renamed it, just have to rename it and remove the txt, I thought that would be faster than zipping it.
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    OK, I see what you did now.

    I am getting kinda tired but I will try and get you something tonight, Andy is young so he may may be wide awake yet

    In the mean time Paul, you might consider re-thinking your drawing to reflect the top of part to always be Z=0 and the XY to be in the negative that way you always know that any - XYZ coordinates will be cutting. I try and mimic my peers, WSM he has 25 years in the business so I figure I cannot go to wrong copying his typical methods. Of course you are the machinist and it is up to you to determine what is comfortable and right for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Shea
    In the mean time Paul, you might consider re-thinking your drawing to reflect the top of part to always be Z=0 and the XY to be in the negative that way you always know that any - XYZ coordinates will be cutting. I try and mimic my peers, WSM he has 25 years in the business so I figure I cannot go to wrong copying his typical methods. Of course you are the machinist and it is up to you to determine what is comfortable and right for you.


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    That explains why I got the machining result I did.
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    Paul,
    Here is one way, not complete since you will need to flip your part, but it may help you get some ideas.

    I am going to Bed

    I would create the stock material for starters since it will be easier to rotate.

    UH-OH no file, let me try again
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    , like Ken said, put the top of the part at z-0. Draw a horizontal tangent line from the bottom of that boss to x-0 y-0, and another from one of the end arcs. Use this intersection to set the part zero. Consider drilling or cir milling the hole, or just z-level rough the whole thing but leave some at the bottom so it does not fall out of the stock. Make a fixture from a couple of pieces of stock with a notch for that boss, chuck it up in the vice, re-zero on the same spot but in the software flip the part over 180. Re do the same z-level rough. You shouldn't need a finish pass.

    Thats just the way I'd approach it, theres at least 10 other ways, let us know how you end up doing it, I always like to see how other people approach things.


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    You are the machinist. I work mostly with wood unless I'm making jigs from AL or phenolics. WMS or Hu will give you much better answers but here's some things I'd do:

    For Z-level roughing I changed to:
    - 1/16" end mill so your find flats with 0 finish allowance will make the horizontal surfaces well flat and then you won't need to planar finish those at all.
    - speeds and feeds seem pretty high. I changed tolerance to .001 for roughing.
    - up clearances to 1" and .25". Your plunge clearance was below the part extents so a simulation reports rapid gouges.
    - change stepover to something like .03 You can type "1/16/2=" into the box and it will calculate for you. Any box. Really handy.

    That will get a good roughing of the part. The big flat areas of the part will not need finishing ops, just the walls. If you make the same clearances changes your z-level finish toolpath works fine.

    As Ken said you need to pick your strategy for part location and how you will hold and machine it. I also generally tend to locate my part top at Z=0. If you were to hold the stock in a vise you would want to set explicit Z extents instead of using the automatic so that you could set a hard limit on the Z depth for the top-side operation and of course you'd have a whole new set of bottom side ops. The clearances are a byproduct of where you locate the part etc.

    Really powerful software. Enjoy, Rand


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Shea
    Paul,
    Here is one way, not complete since you will need to flip your part, but it may help you get some ideas.

    I am going to Bed

    I would create the stock material for starters since it will be easier to rotate.

    UH-OH no file, let me try again
    Thanks Ken, now I see what I was doing wrong, I'm gonna give it a try again.
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    Paul here is the (I hesitate to use the word complete) complete file, perhaps there may be something in it that you can use, if not let me know and I will give your money back

    EDIT:
    This is not usable as is Paul, you will have to adjust thing for your machine.
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