Has anyone heard this?

[brtlatjgt]

I've been contemplating buying some cad software--been looking at onecncxp and visual mill 4. Just from the demo's I really am drawn to onecnc. I was talking to someone at Mecsoft who sales visual mill and they said that onecnc was originally bobcad. They said Auscad bought rights to it and have developed it further. Doesn't really matter to me wondering if anyone has heard that before. Also the V.P. for Mecsoft basically told me that onecnc wasn't a very good product. I don't like to make judgements but when someone runs down someone elses product that's a turn off for me. All products have their pro's and con's.

Just thought I'd share what I learned even though it's probably not important.

[HuFlungDung]

Hi Brt,

Don't let them put you off. Onecnc Xp series or even the previous version Onecnc2000 (now Onecnc2003), is a far cry from Bobcad. Many versions ago, the two programs had some common roots, but that's about it.

I came from a Bobcad background, so I can speak from experience. The fact that Bobcad up to the present day version 18, does not handle solids and surfaces, is proof enough of a vast chasm of difference between the two developers.

I can also say that Bobcad was (is) easy to use, for what it can handle adequately.

Onecnc is also easy to use, even though it is capable of handling more advanced models.

Both softwares have a sort of.... machinist's intutition, to them, which makes them ideal for someone to use, who has had a little machining experience or cnc exposure already.

You can also test drive Onecnc XP series for 30 days (last I heard), so that you can be sure that what you get is what you expected.

There is a phenomenal amount of goodies that have been added, at no extra charge, to OnecncXp Mill Professional, and Mill Expert, since they first came out. The developer is right on top of any issues that come up, too.

[keithorr]

I heard the same story about the evolution of OneCNC from someone at OneCNC.
I only used BobCad v17 before buying 2000Mill Pro, which has upgraded at no cost to 2003Mill Pro.

I agree with everything HuFuDu says. Also, the sales agent should be able to find other strategies to sell his product.

[wms]

Brt,

You can also set up an online demo of the xp series stuff, so you can see what an amazing piece of software it is.

AS for the "common roots" more like seperate roots that crossed for a very short time, then one grew and the other well......


Spend some time and look thru the posts here to see what other user have to say about onecnc.

Here's a link to the new web site:http://www.onecnc.net/index.htm

[Cruncher]

Brt, It is a shame when a company has to try and run down another product to try to sell their own that generally shows they have a bad product. We have onecncxp we do molds we also have mastercam and prefer onecnc better. When we were looking for new cam we looked at getting an extra mc was so expensive because we needed full solids handling so we looked at onecnc visual mill and surfcam. As you can see we chose onecnc. Visual mill in our opinion was hopeless for our use because although you can import some solids it converts them to polygons and the surface tolerance was not good enough for us. It has no cad ability it has no modeling ability part splittting or any of the tools that you need for our work. We got it for evaluation but really it was no comparison whatsoever as it is in a different class altogether. It did not have any of the features that onecnc or mastercam offered that we needed for molds so it did not rate for comparison. I think you can buy visualmill real cheap though.

[hilldf]

brtlatjgt,

From what I have been abble to find out both BodCAD and OneCNC shared the same source code once upon a time. From that point they went different directions. I think when OneCNC first started selling in the US they used the same mailing address as BobCAD. I responded to your thread about which CAD / CAM before. I will say I have never evaluated a lower / mid-range CAD / CAM system where someone was not putting down the competion (EXCEPT for BobCAD), or claiming to be better than the higher end SurfCam's and MasterCam's of the world.
The two systems you are looking at are VERY different. VM4 does not have the CAD abilities that OneCNC does. VM5 is supposed to incorporate a liitle more CAD ability. OneCNC does not have some of the feature VM has, such as working directly with files from SW or SE. There is also a petty good price difference between VM and OneCNC XP.
Please, do yourself a large favor and follow the advice I gave you in your last post about which CAD / CAM. It is the ONLY way you can be sure you are going to get something you will be happy with. Do not let salesman sway you one way or the other. Their job is to sell. It is support that has to face the customers.

[peter]

hi everybody
the truth comes out when you see the end result
trust me i support onecnc
people only say and make up story's when they can't compete
best regards
peter

[D_Pinter]

I like the OneCNC sotware, although I wish the documentation was a little better. Bought BobCAD 6 months ago. What a waste, on the other hand the docu. was better then OneCNC. The software just wasn't good. Guess you just can't win.

Are there any good books out on OneCNC ?

[wms]

D printer,

Sorry, but as of now there are no books on OneCNC software.

I found it to be pretty straight forward.

If you have an specific questions you could post them up and we will see if we can help to you get acquainted with the software.

Also there are lots of good post here, to look through that may help you out. And there is the OneCNC web site as mentioned above. Also find the link above.

Them you could get real good and write a book, and make lots of $$$$....

[peter]

hi d_pinter
do as ward as said "HIT" the forum you are welcome
no matter what your problem is
best regards
peter

[Bloy2004]

Hi,
I'm setting up a machine for CNC and am constantly looking at software. Too many times I read comparisons between software that have me chasing web sites only to find out that instead of hundreds of dollars, the difference is thousands. I guess I am one of the few who have a budget to work under. I don't think anyone should mention Bobcad with Onecnc unless they also qualify their comment with price ranges. ....Gee Whiz! Of course lower prices are going to have compensations, but if it does what's needed then that's enough.

[HuFlungDung]

Hi Bloy2003

Your point is a good one. The problem is to really know what is needed. When experienced users are making recommendations to a new user, we have no way of knowing what they are expecting.

You think its a whopping difference in price, but most of us figure we got a pretty good deal with OneCNC, compared to the price of anything else out there, with the capabiities that OneCNC has.

By all means, if it works for you, then cut your new teeth on Bobcad. Lots of us did