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Old 01-19-2009, 06:38 AM
 
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Need Okuma OSP 2200 info

Hello!

I bought old Okuma LS-N 10. It's -79, operator panel is right side of
machine. There is 7-segment display (no nixon tubes, newer model?)

Do anyone knows, are there any RS-ports (RS-422?)? I can't find any...

Second question: what is that computer in cabinet? It looks like some Altair 8800.
Is this computer Okuma's own product? And what purpose have those
data/instruction/file/address -switches. I know what they do, but
why would I need those in CNC-machine? Are those only for computer diagnostic?

And another question: Can this machine run program from memory?
I study little bit that operator panel, and it looks like there only
possibility run from tape. Am I wrong (I hope...)?

Thanks, and sorry my poor English...
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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Wink Okuma OSP2200L

1. There are no RS232C Ports on this machine.The best solution is to buy a BTR PCB that will replace your Tape Reader. You can get these from Advance Digital Research.

2. That is Okumas own computer, and a very powerful one too.
The Data Instruction switches are for Diagnostics and also used for when loading the Control Software Tapes.

3. The machine does run from Memory. It cannot run from Tape.

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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Yes, I noticed I have "Tape storage/edit"-option in my machine.
Unfortunately all control tapes missing, but it's not big issue,
because I'm gonna modernize this machine with new control system.

I explore little bit that computer, and it is based on 74xx TTL-logics. Awesome!
Have anyone info where I can get that computer full datasheets, schematics
and rest technical information? I need those only for my own interest.

And how powerfull this computer is? Manual say only there is 18-bit wide
data bus (16-bit with two parity bits?).

By to way, use this machine magnetic core memory? Mem card looks
little strange.
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It is still possible to get the Control Tapes for the machine.
Although the control is old, it is still more powerful and can do more than today's Fanuc Control's.
Also there is no "Zero Return or Home Search".
The machine knows where it is all the time as it uses true absolute encoders - NO BATTERY!
Unfortunately it would be extremely difficult to get schematics of the PCB's.
The Memory used in the machine is Core Memory. It does not require Battery Backup.
This can be replaced with a modern 64k CMOS PCB.
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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It is still possible to get the Control Tapes for the machine.
I have to ask Okuma. I hope those don't pay fortune...


The machine knows where it is all the time as it uses true absolute encoders
I figured that out, but still strange system, because there is not a
linear encoders (or is there?).


Unfortunately it would be extremely difficult to get schematics of the PCB's.
That's bad, I would love explore those...


This can be replaced with a modern 64k CMOS PCB.
Where I can get that? Okuma?
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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What Model of Machine is it?
How many Turrets etc?

These are Rotary Encoders which work like a clockwork system therefore when power is provided to the Encoder it will instantly give it's absolute position.
It doesn't matter if there is no power and you rotate the shaft of the encoder and then power on.
It will still give an instant reading. The only limitation on these encoders was about 5 mtrs. There lastest encoders can go over 100 mtrs!

Okuma will supply the 64k CMOS Board. If you have a slot 3C in the system then this has to be modified + the Mother Board( not too difficult )
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:42 AM
 
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I think that encoder system have to have something like that.

But here's photo that memory card:



I'm not sure what options I have in my machine, at least constant cutting
speed, tape storage/edit and 16 K memory. There is one V6 turret and one H4.

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Old 01-27-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Are you saying this machine has a variable speed drive?
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Yes, there's 11Kw DC-motor and LDU-600 thyristor stage with four gear ratios.
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Here's more photo's:







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Bloody Hell, Where's it been?

Is there a Spindle Override Switch or is that broken off?

Do you mean SDU600W Spindle Drive Unit?
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:02 AM
 
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Bloody Hell, Where's it been?
Maybe in some kind nuclear strike..?
Little paint, love and it will look like a new...


Is there a Spindle Override Switch or is that broken off?
I wonder that too, maybe operator panel is replaced (or that switch option
accessory too )


Do you mean SDU600W Spindle Drive Unit?
Yep, that's right...
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