Okuma-Howa HL-20

[howd]

Anybody out here in the zone know what manuals should have come with an Okuma-Howa HL-20? Built in 2000 with a Fanuc 18T control. I have tried my distributer and Okuma America. They have called over to Japan, and Okuma does not know either. Isn't THAT special!!!

[slavetothemetal]

I would start by getting my hands on the Fanuc manuals, that's going to get you the furthest to start. Maybe look for a distributor of Okuma & Howa machines and see if they are able to help you out, here is a link to one:http://www.kgki.com/

[broby]

Do not assume that a Okuma-Howa machine is built by OKUMA!
I believe that OKUMA have only bought out Okuma-Howa within the last few years, but could be wrong in that regard!
We used to have a O&H twin pallet mill with a Fanuc Controller on it and there was no way this machine had anything to do with "Okuma".

[philserveng]

Okuma-Howa is not an Okuma machine. The only reason the "Okuma" name appears is because the Japanese government forced Okuma to "save" Howa when they were in financial problems. Okuma-Howa use a fanuc control, Okuma use their own. Don't waste your time asking Okuma.......just exactly what is you problem again ????

[howd]

I was needing to know what manuals came with Okuma-Howa HL-20. All the Fanuc manuals tell you to consult machine tool builder manuals for estblishment of machine zero. I was trying to find out what manuals were shipped with machine. After 5 months of phone calls and emails, they finally sent a list of manuals that shipped with machine. I already had the Okuma-Howa manuals (they were of so little help, I thought I was missing some), so now I guess I need to find out which Fanuc manuals went with machine. And no, Okuma don't know that info. Since machine was built in 2000, it should be VERY easy for them to look in thier computer and find that information, but they refuse.

[broby]

Originally Posted by howd I was needing to know what manuals came with Okuma-Howa HL-20. All the Fanuc manuals tell you to consult machine tool builder manuals for estblishment of machine zero. I was trying to find out what manuals were shipped with machine. After 5 months of phone calls and emails, they finally sent a list of manuals that shipped with machine. I already had the Okuma-Howa manuals (they were of so little help, I thought I was missing some), so now I guess I need to find out which Fanuc manuals went with machine. And no, Okuma don't know that info. Since machine was built in 2000, it should be VERY easy for them to look in thier computer and find that information, but they refuse.

I can understand your level of frustration in not getting the information that you require, but what part of "this is NOT and Okuma machine" do you not understand?

I would be like asking Toyota for Ford specs on something they have done.

[Chris D]

Okuma now owns Okuma-Howa. Part of the sale is that Okuma is now in control of ALL parts and service. KGKI no longer handles the parts and Okuma-Howa's Chicago office has closed and everything was turned over to OKUMA.

So, if you need help, contact your local Okuma dealer or try to contact OKUMA which is located in Charlotte NC.

For what it is worth, don't expect anything substantial regarding information in an Okuma Howa manual. To learn about a specific feature or something, it is probably best just to ask specific questions and perhaps someone on this forum can help.

Chris

[philserveng]

What do you mean, Okuma now own Okuma-Howa ? is that the operation in the USA or manufacturing in Japan? In any case, why would Okuma in Charlotte have all the historical information to hand, it is extremely unlikely they will help. Sorry to be negative, but I did work for Okuma in Charlotte.

[broby]

I Heard from someone within Okuma Australia that this occured a few years back now.
I do not recall the time frame on when this was supposed to have happened...
We had a Okuma-Howa mill quite a few years ago now, with a Fanuc control, and it was not a real quality machine that is for sure!
As for whether it applies worldwide or not, do not know, but it certainly sounds like it happened in Japan.
Other that that, I agree, I would not expect to get manuals for "Older" O&H machines from Okuma!

[howd]

Hey broby, it ain't like askin Toyota about Ford specs!!!!!! The FIRST name (in BIG BOLD letters) on the machine (and on the books) is none other than OKUMA!!!!!!!!!!!! If it ain't OKUMA, it should say "this AIN'T made by Okuma" . So what part of OKUMA all over a machine don't you understand? If they don't want any part of it, they should go ahead and say so, and not keep screwing me around for 5 months!

[broby]

Well OK Then!
No need to get all twisted about it!
I was merely trying to point out that "IN THE PAST" these "Okuma & Howa" machines, despite having the lettering "Okuma" on them, were NOT made by "Okuma" but by a firm called "Okuma & Howa"! So how could they be expected to supply manuals for some thing they did not manufacture?
NOW, since they (Okuma) have bought out O&H (so I am told) it is very likely that your machine has been built by OKUMA.
If this is the case, and don't forget, I am not looking at you machine with the writing all over it, I would be in total agreement with you and also be rather peeved that the machine tool builders can not supply a replacement set of manuals for your machine!
If I have offended you, my humblest apologies!
Hope this clarifies my opinion, and don't forget, it is only one small opinion in the big wide world!
Cheers
Brian.

[rickyt]

So you are trying to set machine Zero-position, I have an O&H ACT-20 with the Fanuc 18t, I had to set my home position a few months ago. I wrote done the steps and I will find them and get back tomorrow. Did the batteries get low and you lost home position? Thats what happened to me, I bought my lathe used, I may have some phone numbers that could be very helpful. I'll pm you tomorrow. Yes Okuma has bought O&H out, if you go to Okuma's web site and look at the Millac line of mills and lathe's, you can see they have started putting Okuma controllers on the new machines.