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    how can i read effort from motors ? ... to read that variable that shows that *axis is loaded at x% ?

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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?

    hello, please, how can i call/read this "diff" variables ? please, do you have an example ?

    if it helps, i have attached machine's parameters ... kindly !



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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    What are you trying to do ?
    hello mr wizard

    i need better management for efforts ...

    i wish (not always) to record for each tool the cutting effort inside a log file, so to easily observe wear evolution

    it would be great, for example, for a continuous 100mm driling to read effort at 30mm, 60mm and 90mm ...

    actually should work like this :

    VLMON[1]=....
    CALL OSUB1
    code to be monitored
    VLMON[1]=0
    CALL OSUB2

    OSUB1
    at "x"miliseconds record efforts specified in VLMON and load into memory

    OSUB2
    data from memory write to file

    this effort reading procedure is base for official stuff like : Monitoring Operation Process / Adaptive Control Function, maybe Navi ...

    I don't need those applications ... i just need the efforts to be recorded in background, and after a while, or when something happens, just to take a look at them, so to have a general opinion about the process; LM can't give you that general opinion; it has more particular behaviour, instead of general

    LM is good, of course, is like a little god, but is just the begining ... LM prevents machine from nasty stuff, so it gives you a safety feeling ... now, that we are safety, we can go even further, optimizing cutting process, but how ? you can go empiric, trials, or maybe we just need a new tool

    aplications :
    - when wear is smooth, among 2..3 shifts/>10hours, and sound changes in cutting are to subtle to be heared, and tool seems to broke without a reason
    .......... so to be aware of this behaviour before things gets worse
    - when LM recorded values are way too much, generally because of inhomogeneous materials, and this is discovered too late
    .......... so to see after some hours of cutting that you are not even close to LM value
    - when tools come back from regrinding, and they crash like a charm, because of regrinding quality
    .......... so to compare their behaviour with a new tool
    - and deep driling of course
    .......... so to optimize cutting process after 5D
    - more control ... is all about more control

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    Torque limit / skip
    what are these two ? i have never heard of them kindly !



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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?



    - 4.50 ... 5.20
    - 6.25 ... 6.50

    - so bought cars have ABS, but one is much more stable and smooth, while the other one looks nice and sexy, but likely to drift ...

    - why ? because ABS gives you safety, so you can see safety/load monitoring, as an upper limit, or as a new begining ,,,

    - it is possible to run without load monitoring with heigher rentability/lower costs, than with it ... for example you just cut at high specs but being focused (habit_1), or you use low cutting specs and load monitor (habit_2)

    - most use habit_2, because parts get out and what else do you wish ?
    - going habit_1 is a bit risky, but worth it ... to eliminate "risky", you loose time, once process is stable, to speed it up ... with effort values/charts you can see what happens and optimize things much faster ... in that moment you see that you can deliver more parts in the same time without losing too much time to achieve that

    - you must know where to look kindly !



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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tea hole View Post
    I am not sure you can read the real time values as a variable ...
    >>> this is the 1st step

    mr rabit said something about "diff" variables; well, will be continued



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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    I think that you can use the Load Monitor AUTO SET to capture...
    this is static behaviour, delivers one value / movement ...

    i need dynamic behaviour, among a G1 line code, that executes in T time [ seconds ], to spam T/0.5 different values

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    Torque skip = the ab ... G22 PW=30 D.1 L.15 W0 F50
    you told me about this here : http://www.cnczone.com/forums/okuma/...gin-lathe.html

    i forgot / actually, i did not used it yet ... sry



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    Default Re: how can i read effort from motors ?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    how can i read effort from motors ? ... to read that variable that shows that *axis is loaded at x% ?
    hello past self of me it has been cca2 years, and now i can read efforts, etc

    a new path opens

    i will share stuff soon; kindly

    we are merely at the start of " Internet of Things / Industrial Revolution 4.0 " era : a mix of AI, plastics, human estrangement, powerful non-state actors ...


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