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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    Steve

    I was informed by another forum of the problems you mentiond.

    I have consulted with the company who would be doing the job and they informed me that the latest lasers do not suffer the same problems with errors as they used to.

    There are numerous ways to stop reflections other than painting which are non-permanent.

    I will have no problems in having the files provided in relavant format as I have been into this in depth and have access to aerospace level apps.

    It took me a while to get all the correct info by myself.
    "informed me that the latest lasers do not suffer the same problems with errors as they used to"

    mmmm, magic lasers that dont reflect on shiny things.

    if you do this, make sure the company agrees in writing the quality of model you expect and dont let them off the hook when the cant provide it afterwards. we just has a person scanned. we mistakenly went with the guys who claimed all sorts of quality and cheap price. 3 weeks after the deadline they delivered something that was.. well, laughable.

    the guitar will need to be powdered (baby powder and a makeup brush). the powder is a pain to get of bare wood though, so tape off the fretboard and cavities. you should get an "ok" approximation of the body and neck, and from there can make a nice cad model. you wont likely get anything smooth and nice enough to cnc straight off.

    in any case, it will be better than hand measuring and if yo get enough people to spread the cost be worth while.

    i question what you want to do the with parts and hardware though. youre not gonna get much wothwhile out of a scan of those. too small to pick u accurate details. youre honestly better off measuring and building a solid model.

    ive got a new gibson les paul here which i will scan at some point (mostly for the neck profile). its a satin natural finish, so it shouldnt put up too much of a fight. its of course not "historically accurate" for a '59.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    "informed me that the latest lasers do not suffer the same problems with errors as they used to"

    mmmm, magic lasers that dont reflect on shiny things.

    if you do this, make sure the company agrees in writing the quality of model you expect and dont let them off the hook when the cant provide it afterwards. we just has a person scanned. we mistakenly went with the guys who claimed all sorts of quality and cheap price. 3 weeks after the deadline they delivered something that was.. well, laughable.

    the guitar will need to be powdered (baby powder and a makeup brush). the powder is a pain to get of bare wood though, so tape off the fretboard and cavities. you should get an "ok" approximation of the body and neck, and from there can make a nice cad model. you wont likely get anything smooth and nice enough to cnc straight off.

    in any case, it will be better than hand measuring and if yo get enough people to spread the cost be worth while.

    i question what you want to do the with parts and hardware though. youre not gonna get much wothwhile out of a scan of those. too small to pick u accurate details. youre honestly better off measuring and building a solid model.

    ive got a new gibson les paul here which i will scan at some point (mostly for the neck profile). its a satin natural finish, so it shouldnt put up too much of a fight. its of course not "historically accurate" for a '59.
    As I prevously stated I have worked out problematic issues that could of arose.


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    Hello,

    I just finished my hobbe cnc machine and it is big enough to make a guitar.
    Now i know this project is not exactly for noobs like me however i would really love to build one.

    So if it is digitized do i have to do alot of work still as i have 0 experience in solidworks right now.

    What i mean after scanning are parts divided in the body / fretboard and neck etc? Or do i have to work this myself out?

    If it is made a bit easy for a noob like me i am willing to chip in the scanning cost.

    Jeffry


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin-X View Post
    Hello,

    I just finished my hobbe cnc machine and it is big enough to make a guitar.
    Now i know this project is not exactly for noobs like me however i would really love to build one.

    So if it is digitized do i have to do alot of work still as i have 0 experience in solidworks right now.

    What i mean after scanning are parts divided in the body / fretboard and neck etc? Or do i have to work this myself out?

    If it is made a bit easy for a noob like me i am willing to chip in the scanning cost.

    Jeffry
    It is possible to scann the different parts seperately and then import them in solidworks.

    If all the digitised parts were all in one file you would need a lot of ram to even open the file!!!!!!!

    Do you have solidworks??

    You can create surfaces from pointclouds in most modern CAD apps it all depends how comftable you are with your CAD App as Solidworks has different modes.

    I wish I had the spare room for a homemade cnc router.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    If all the digitised parts were all in one file you would need a lot of ram to even open the file!!!!!!!
    A ParaSolids or STL of the file won't be very big at all, and will contain all the needed detail to route the parts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphill View Post
    A ParaSolids or STL of the file won't be very big at all, and will contain all the needed detail to route the parts.
    The problem with Parasolid and STL is that some apps do not like them


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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    The problem with Parasolid and STL is that some apps do not like them
    Any file type has some conversion issues. That said, STL is pretty "system agnostic", and SolidWorks can handle both of these. Again, once the scan is done, it would be easy to save it in as many file formats as you want, and the people who paid for it could just use the file type that works best for them. In addition, different levels of smoothing or compaction of the data could be done in seconds, and saved in different revisions of files, so that anyone could get something that is best usable for them.

    I'm not trying to steal any of your thunder here. There is no reason to be so antagonistic with me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    It is possible to scann the different parts seperately and then import them in solidworks.

    If all the digitised parts were all in one file you would need a lot of ram to even open the file!!!!!!!

    Do you have solidworks??

    You can create surfaces from pointclouds in most modern CAD apps it all depends how comftable you are with your CAD App as Solidworks has different modes.

    I wish I had the spare room for a homemade cnc router.
    No i have no solidworks but they have it at work so i can crawl behind that computer.

    I just assumed it would be done in solidworks.

    So if all parts are being scanned seperatly and cyborgcnc is gonna make a nice vid on how to machine one then i am in!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin-X View Post
    No i have no solidworks but they have it at work so i can crawl behind that computer.

    I just assumed it would be done in solidworks.

    So if all parts are being scanned seperatly and cyborgcnc is gonna make a nice vid on how to machine one then i am in!

    You will need to check which revision of solidworks is at your disposal as some revisions are better than others???????


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphill View Post
    Any file type has some conversion issues. That said, STL is pretty "system agnostic", and SolidWorks can handle both of these. Again, once the scan is done, it would be easy to save it in as many file formats as you want, and the people who paid for it could just use the file type that works best for them. In addition, different levels of smoothing or compaction of the data could be done in seconds, and saved in different revisions of files, so that anyone could get something that is best usable for them.

    I'm not trying to steal any of your thunder here. There is no reason to be so antagonistic with me.

    Just my own experience with parasolids and stl


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    Just been working with different materials to remove powders with out scratching any finish!!!!!!


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    I'm in how much and where do I send the money?


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