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Musical Instrument Design & Construction Discuss of CNC machining electric guitar body shaping, template making, inlay part cutting and pocketing, neck shaping and carving.


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Old 12-30-2006, 08:17 PM
 
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Carvewright a guitar body?

I was at the carvewright website a few days ago and was wondering if anyone made a guitar body with the thing, I think the designer program looks like it could be the ticket from the look of things.
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Look at the material holding system. I don't think it's possible. As for me it's only for reliefs.
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Hi Rakus,
I posted a test file on CW forum a few days ago. One guy said it could work with a slead and 2 sided tape. I have revamped the design a little removing the slead buy giving the design a little more wood on the sides
it is still under 14.5"..

my idea is to let the CW make the PU/neck pockets and scribe a outline for the bandsaw. Have you tryed it for neck pocket and PU routing?

Here is a rendering I made with Designer showing the layout the body blank max size is 14.38"

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Hold it down with a vacuum system and everything is possible - a guitar body is about 2 sq.ft so carving will be no problem. If this pump business will be to expensive try double adhesive tapes - there are some varieties holding like hell.
I was trying my luck with them in turning some aluminum on the lathe, only problem was the part getting too hot (my fault, the tools were not sharp enough and I was pushing like mad to get it cut), but with low feed rate I could get it done.
Wood on the other hand does not get hot so it won't peel off. Give it a try!
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The real question is can you get a carved top from the software.

Also, from a demo I downloaded some time ago it appeared that the software lacked the refinement to do precise measurements. More of an artistic package than a true CAD system. I gather there has been inprovements, however.

Wish it wasn't so. I love the price point for a small router CNC with all the software. What kills me is the thought of hundreds or even thousands of $$ just to run a device I constructed for less than the cost of the software!!! Carvewright would be a fun alternative if the software was more complete (or at least could import from a true CAD program).
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The real question is can you get a carved top from the software.
I can get a archtop shape with recurve into designer with some playing
around. I think with a little testing via the print mode, the pockets should be to tolerance.

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there are some varieties holding like hell.
what tape is the best for cnc wood clamping do you think.
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got tape?

Try using carpet tape. Its verys aggressive
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Try using carpet tape. Its verys aggressive
Get the cloth one, though.
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The real question is can you get a carved top from the software.
I can get a archtop shape with recurve into designer with some playing
around. I think with a little testing via the print mode, the pockets should be to tolerance.
You can? I spent hours on the demo version and it seemed very limited to me. As one person put it on the CW forum, "It's like Corel draw v2, only more limited". (For those not familiar with Corel Draw, v2 is an early 90's version. That was not a compliment.)

I have to admit, I don't know how you got your outline to begin with. The "arch" and "spline" tools lack bezier control handles that are standard in drawing and CAD programs for determining curves. I have no idea how you got the thing to do compound curves. Designer also seems not to have any lofting tools that would allow you to set cycloid curves for the top. Heck, I couldn't see how to tell it to give me a simple radiused fret board. There was no where I could see that I could tell the program what radius I wanted my "domed" surface carve.

Can you post either here or on the CW board an archtop or fingerboard? I think if I could just see how something like that is done it might push me off the fence to buy one. Your guitar outline rocks, by the way.
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Importing complex curves into Carvewright - If you draw an outline to your satisfaction in a drawing program, like coreldraw, and then give it a black rectangular background, with the centre area white, save it as a greyscale jpeg.
(You could of course put in a contour surface using a greyscale fill if you have the right tools, like Blend, in your draw programme.)
When you import that into carvewright, you can get rid of the rectangle by "lifting" the carving during the import process.
Then use the "outline" tool to create a vector path around the shape. Delete the original and you are left with just the shape you wanted .
Then add to that as necessary.
I hope this helps.
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Your guitar outline rocks, by the way.

Thanks,
I dig that shape.. I made it in designer surprisingly fast, it’s not to scale yet, as I am holding off until I get a CW. I would love to demo the body with pics.

I find the way the splines are working in designer very simple to use overall, so I am not missing the control right now.
In the software you can select between hard and soft intersections cool…

I know it is lacking the controls over spines that Photoshop has,
But at this point I am not missing the convoluted selections in the menus associated with it in other software...

Using the grayscale altitude maps that are in the program, you get some cool profile arching in addition a scanner with software is available.

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