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Old 02-26-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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Just saying hi

well im a new member and im still finding my way around this forum so bare with me, Im a custom guitar builder from Cold Lake Ab and ive been wanting to learn how to do this kind of designing and I would like to one day set up my own CNC. for now im looking to get a few of my custom designs into cad files so that I can have a few prototypes cut out, but i have no clue where to start

so in short just saying hi

this is a link to my website http://razarguitars.webs.com/

let me know what you guys think, and if theres any one out there that would be willing to kinda help me out with a few designs let me know i would really like to see how this is done
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Nice looking work.

I really like the purple heart and rosewood color combination. I've used it in a few of my wood projects, even a thumb hole carbine rifle stock for a T/C Encore single shot frame. Purple heart center slab with outside slabs of some really streaky black Bolivian rosewood.

I have enough purple heart to make a guitar but seems like it would make a very heavy guitar. The stuff I have is high up on the weight scale for this wood and even has some streaks in it. I am using it for the neck of a camp banjo project that has been laying dormant for a while.

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You need to learn a CAD program (really well) and start modelling them. A lot of guitar builders like Rhino. You can download a fully functional demo, that is limited in the number of saves. So you can play as long as you want, as long as you don't save anything.
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You need to learn a CAD program (really well) and start modelling them. A lot of guitar builders like Rhino. You can download a fully functional demo, that is limited in the number of saves. So you can play as long as you want, as long as you don't save anything.
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Nice looking work.

I really like the purple heart and rosewood color combination. I've used it in a few of my wood projects, even a thumb hole carbine rifle stock for a T/C Encore single shot frame. Purple heart center slab with outside slabs of some really streaky black Bolivian rosewood.

I have enough purple heart to make a guitar but seems like it would make a very heavy guitar. The stuff I have is high up on the weight scale for this wood and even has some streaks in it. I am using it for the neck of a camp banjo project that has been laying dormant for a while.
i would love to see pics of that rifle stock man, and ya im a big fan of purpleheart ive been lucky enough to find a few really nice quilted boards in the past but man is it hard to find and yep it makes for one heavy guitar but if you do a supper thin style build or add a maple top and take most of the purpleheart down it helps and its a great sounding wood
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http://www.rhino3d.com/
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what file would be the best for my needs, sorry man im a total noob
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http://download.rhino3d.com/rhino/4.0/eval/

Sounds like you may be in for a very steep learning curve. Find all the tutorials you can and, practice, practice, practice. And don't save anything until you really know what you're doing, as you only get 25 saves with the trial version.
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Razar,

Do not be put off by the wealth of knowledge you will be acquiring over the next ten years. Ger is absolutely right about Rhino. I believe that there is no better. I am also partial to Rhinocam (a mecsoft product).

Once you get your machine set up, many people on this forum would be willing to do drawings/gcode for you until you have a firm grip on the ropes. All I would need to 3D model your products would be a sketch, and some part #'s or detailed dimensions of fretboard/trussrod/bride pieces.

On the other hand, once you do begin modeling (in earnest), your questions will lead to quick and concise answers on this forum. This information will be the catalyst, and you will get everything out of the software that you put into it.

Good luck!

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ger21,

If it's ok with you, and not too off topic in this forum, I will post a photo of the purple heart/Bolivian rosewood carbine stock for Razar, and also a solid purple heart pistol stock on a T/C Contender. I think Razar will like them.

I'll leave it up to you.

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Ok, here ya go Razar.

For the viewers not familiar with them, the T/C Encore and Contender are break action single shot frames that are opened by squeezing the trigger guard. The barrel tips up for loading the cartridge. These are used for hunting and target shooting. Some of us also decorate them as eye candy with exotic wood stock sets for fun.

All of them I have seen have part of the frame exposed and have grips and forearms that are not continuous. As something a little different I decided to see if making a carbine rifle stock in one piece and then cutting an arc that is centered on the hinge pin to turn it into a grip and forearm that looks continuous when the action is closed. This is the result for an Encore frame. It works nicely, and hinges around the cut works like a shotgun receiver/barrel joint.

The Contender pistol stock is solid purple heart. That odd looking thing on the muzzle is a muzzle break that greatly reduces recoil.

I also found a photo of a purple heart clock with walnut base that I made a few years ago.

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thats just cool, and great looking purpleheart
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