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    hi everybody
    this is probably something that everybody wants to avoid
    i have a multitek box(tek10 amp) with the deskcnc controller mounted to one of my mills (it is running quite good for the last 2 years, maybe 3)
    now suddenly the x axis motor takes off at random(i push the fast feed button) but stoppage only via kill switch,
    on top there is a random x-axis creeping(control on, but in standby)and no change in the position display, until it hits the solid endstop.
    i redid the wiring,replaced the amp with a spare i have,replaced the wiring to the motor/encoder, but no change
    i had at one point a repeatable run away (6 times) of the x-axis and when i jogged the y/z axis (no problem there) the run away situation evaporated until next time.
    can anybody shed some light on it, i am at a loss.
    cant use the machine,do not know where it will go next

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    Assuming there is no tach on the motor, I would check the encoder signal output.
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    the funny thing is when i start the control, the run away condition does not appear always,if it does then only at the x-axis.this morning it did it again.
    1. jog x-axis in rapid, x-axis started to run away, killed it
    2. jog x-axis in rapid, run away again,killed it
    3. jog y axis in slow, back and forth
    4. jog x axis in rapid, servo moves at set jogging speed
    5. run small test program with feed/rapid in x/y plane a fw repetitions, everything fine
    6. let it sit for some time (1/2 hour) x-axis starts to creep in slow feed,no position change
    7.scratch at the last few hairs on my head
    hans



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    Not familiar with your hardware, but could your X-encoder be slipping? If it were loose, that might explain why at slow speeds it's fine, and acts up more at high speeds....

    Can you swap the x and y servo/encoder signals?



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    saga continues
    started back after coffeebreak , jogged x in rapid and again run away of the axis
    so i removed the x axis servo motor,checked wiring trough the housing connector
    (why they route the encoder cable and powercable through the same conduit is something i do not know)
    but checked the encoder, nothing lose,cable seams to be alright
    it is an accu-coder model 775a -1000 encoder
    not knowing if there is cable disconnect or not so i swapped the whole motor/encoder
    against a known working one.(motor is on bench)
    joggingin slow/rapid seams to work and my test program is running.
    my problem might point to a faulty wiring at the encoder/motor end
    so far test program still running
    hans



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    Quote Originally Posted by HANSJUERGENKARL View Post
    (why they route the encoder cable and powercable through the same conduit is something i do not know)
    This is often done, especially when using differential encoder with correct cable and shielding etc & the motor conductors are twisted together.
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    the sparemotor/encoder is doing okay,
    it looks that either the encoder/or the big plug at the servo has a loose wire(encoder)
    i will reconnect back to the machine axis reroute the encoder wires seperately and see what i get
    thanks
    hans



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