NT4250DCG 5 axis lathe

[2wheelferrum07]

Hello Gentlemen and Ladies


so today we took delivery of two mori seiki machines one being a horizontal mill and a NT4250DCG 5 axis lathe.
my first question is: do any of you have experience with this particular machine and what software did you use to program it?
i am using Mastercam X4 and i am going to try and come up with a post for it.
i say try cause this one will be a pain.

thanks

[Mic6]

Cant help you with your query, but how about some pics?

[2wheelferrum07]

i could not get both chucks and the spindle in one pic but i think you get the general idea

[WOLOG]

Whatcha' makin'? I want an NT bad. I probably should have opted for one instead of 2 NL's. What count tool mag did you get? Probes? How is Mastercam X4 working for you? I want to go to Mori in Chicago in November to look at the new machines. Especially the one with MAPPSIV.

Which Horizontal did you get?

[2wheelferrum07]

Originally Posted by WOLOG Whatcha' makin'? I want an NT bad. I probably should have opted for one instead of 2 NL's. What count tool mag did you get? Probes? How is Mastercam X4 working for you? I want to go to Mori in Chicago in November to look at the new machines. Especially the one with MAPPSIV. Which Horizontal did you get?

i got the 100 tool one and probes of course. i just had the probes installed on both machines, so as of yesterday after noon they are functional. i have not started programming them yet, i will start early next week and report back. i don't have a post for the NT yet, if any one has something i can use it would be awesome.
we are making missile components, fairly easy parts. we'll see how easy they feel on this NT

for a Horizontal we got the NH6300DCII
this should present no problems to program or operate.
from today till next week i will be looking at models and selecting tool holders and cutting tools for both.
ill post up with progress ASAP

oh and the NH comes with 180 tool mag

[Mic6]

That NT looks sick! Is that with the capto or hsk spindle

[Glacern]

I believe Esprit has some functions that cater to the NT, including simulation with a model of the actual machine.

I'm also curious as to what you're making with those bad boys?

[DIFF OVER]

Glacern is correct, By the way, i love your site.

Esprit has the turning tool add in, continuos b axis fucntion and many more. I am jealous. i would love to play on that machine for a week. turbo milling, viper grinding any thing i am allowed to do.

Looks great, have fun.

[2wheelferrum07]

Originally Posted by DIFF OVER Glacern is correct, By the way, i love your site. Esprit has the turning tool add in, continuos b axis fucntion and many more. I am jealous. i would love to play on that machine for a week. turbo milling, viper grinding any thing i am allowed to do. Looks great, have fun.

yeah you guys are right Esprit is the cad that is supporting this equipment. i am in contact with them and will probably get something from them.
Master cam is not willing to help until i give them a PO
they might be loosing my business for this. i have purchased the maintenance every year. but i can't get any help on this, it will be the last year i do.

Originally Posted by Glacern I believe Esprit has some functions that cater to the NT, including simulation with a model of the actual machine. I'm also curious as to what you're making with those bad boys?

we currently have some work for it, but won't be using it for that. we are making missile components (patriot II)

Originally Posted by Mic6 That NT looks sick! Is that with the capto or hsk spindle

we actually got two sets of chucks.
what the machine comes with (capto) 12" and we got a 16" inch for the work that we will be doing on it.

[the thrill]

I know everything you need to know about this machine... I've worked for Mori direct, distributors of Mori and as a sub contractor for customers with Mori equipment. I use Esprit cam for 95% of my mill/turn projects and CAPS for the small, simple stuff. If you need any help with the machine, let me know. It's pretty easy, actually. get familiar with the CAPS conversational... it'll help in a pinch and for a conversational control its pretty damn powerful.

By the way... it's not a 5 axis if it has a lower turret and second spindle... it's 9

[2wheelferrum07]

Originally Posted by the thrill I know everything you need to know about this machine... I've worked for Mori direct, distributors of Mori and as a sub contractor for customers with Mori equipment. I use Esprit cam for 95% of my mill/turn projects and CAPS for the small, simple stuff. If you need any help with the machine, let me know. It's pretty easy, actually. get familiar with the CAPS conversational... it'll help in a pinch and for a conversational control its pretty damn powerful. By the way... it's not a 5 axis if it has a lower turret and second spindle... it's 9

thanks for the correction on the number of axis
am sure at some point i will use your help. are you local?
as of last friday we started taking delivery of our machining fixtures, so come next week we will be in motion with these equipment.
i have done conversational (mazatrol) and CAPS is very similar, just a little long winded if you ask me, but besides that is pretty much the same.
i like conversational much better than G code. for the most part i think i will be using it. my parts are pretty simple, i just have to get used to the "9 axis"
we are looking at Esprit too.
we currently use Master Cam (X4) but they are offering no support for this machines post, they tell me they have to create a post. i think is a bunch of **** really, i know for a fact that this is not the first time they know about this machine. i asked them for a sample code of a turned dia and face.
they said that they would not do it without a PO.
so am looking at Esprit.
any such experience with master crap i mean cam

[underthetire]

Esprit all the way. Even the new Maps controller, not yet released has Esprit built in. They had functioning ones at Mori DTL on the multi axis machines. Looks awesome.