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Old 02-18-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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I can appreciate the frustration the first poster vented.

No matter the job, it is never just you and the machine; you have to deal with people.
Try to always think before engaging mouth. That can be hard to do sometimes.
Some folks just don’t have the social skills and need to develop them to interact with people effectively, if at all. Learning to bite your tongue most of the time is not kissing ass. It gives you time to consider what you should do and to do it logically not from emotion. It is a fool who runs their mouth. The work place is not the place to rant or socialize.

Here is the point of this post:
Some of the most uncommunicative, cantankerous, raggedly looking, and unexpectedly knowledgeable men, who worked at seemingly simple tasks, taught me some of the best and wisest “tricks & methods” in all aspects of troubleshooting, build and repair of equipment. Even a guy you consider a drunk or a dumb boatswain’s mate can teach you some thing you did not know. It might take years before you even recognize what he taught you.
Never think that you are smarter than the next guy. You need to be open to learning no mater how smart you are, from anybody who has something to teach you.
You will be amazed at some of the things you can learn from working with someone else, even someone you don’t like.

Your job is not your life or define who you are, work to live, not live to work.

(Thank you George for teaching me so much about building machine tools. Have another drink on me you old reprobate. RIP)
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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All i can say is grow up. 2 semesters of some BS cnc coarse still makes you almost worthless. So you felt sorry for the inspector and let him do the work you were assigned to do ? Then told a shop manager i did nothing? I would have fired you on the spot right there. His job was to oversee you and make sure things were ok, not for you to decide what you felt like doing. Machining can suck. Most job shops suck. If a large aerospace company hires you, then lets you go two weeks later, its time to look at yourself. We all started out as some BS shop helper, debur hand, or newer guys as operators. I never once got laid off in that short of time. Sure, shops go under, or almost go under, thats just manufaturing in the U.S.. I remember training one young operator on OKumas in a large company. 2 weeks later he tells me he can do this job better than me ( i was the lead set up at the time). Then he spits a big bloody phlegm in to the machine. I asked WTF are you doing, and he replies don't worry, it just goes down the drain. Had no clue at all. He was fired 2 days later. If you ever want to survive in a shop, keep your head down, do whats asked of you, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, and eventually you'll be worth something.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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i read the OP's first post and im not gonna read through 3 pages, but all i can tell you is to humble your self...keep your mouth shut, find things to do, let the company throw bigger and bigger challenges at you, dont ask for them, (you can volunteer if they ask, but dont be cocky) and you will go far. once i realized that, i made ALOT more money.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:38 PM
 
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aarggh....i printed your post lol i think like you, but maybe it will help me remember to when i dont
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