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Old 09-14-2009, 11:15 AM
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Thumbs up Mazatrol M32 conversion to milimiters.

Hy,

I have a 1990 Mazak VQC with Mazatrol M32.
I want to do the machine conversion from inches to milimiters.
Can someone give me some ideas about how to do this possible?

Than you in advance!
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Metric values

Hi there;
In some cases if you have the parameter list that came with your machine there will be 2 list of parameters.
As some parameter pages will not require converting the others are as outlined in the Parameter/ Operator / Alarm manual.
Check your parameter sheet that came with the machine. If I can be of any further help just contact me.


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Originally Posted by MTSS Service View Post
Hi there;
In some cases if you have the parameter list that came with your machine there will be 2 list of parameters.
As some parameter pages will not require converting the others are as outlined in the Parameter/ Operator / Alarm manual.
Check your parameter sheet that came with the machine. If I can be of any further help just contact me.


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Ok, thank you for your quick answer.
Unfortunately I bought this old machine past year, and came without manuals an parameters list. I have change some parameters by trying an error method, That is why I dont know witches are necessary to convert the machine to milimiters. The only thing that I know is that the parameter #K58 is language change.

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Here's my understanding:

An inch Mazak has had all parameter numbers in either all metric, for metric machine, or all inch, for inch machine. If your machine is in all inch, then you have to convert all values to metric and reload all parameters as metric values.

There is a s/w option called "inch/metric conversion", that can change the units with one softkey. I do not know if this was possible on M32. I definately know it was available on later Fusion and Matrix controls. You may have a long road ahead if you want to purchase this option.

I know Mazak has internal docs that list which parameters need conversion, but this applies to Fusion and later. I do not know of such lists for M32, but it seems logical they exist.

What i find ironic is that the entire Mazak machine has always been designed and calibrated in metric. Only machines based in inch are for North American market. A small amount of customers in USA are metric only and convert their machines to metric after purchase. It is ironic that a metric based machine should require so much work and information to use in metric in the United States!

This is not all the info available, merely what I happen to know. I suggest you try to develop a relationship with your Mazak chain of command for your geographic area. For example, a complete set of factory original parameters is available for your machine via Mazak spare parts dept. it's approx $500 for this service in the usa and they go back to factory of origin and copy the original parameter sheets for that machine. All manuals are available by this way, also. All manuals now are available in acrobat format. M32 may only be scanned originals converted to acrobat?

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Originally Posted by jimiscnc View Post
Here's my understanding:

An inch Mazak has had all parameter numbers in either all metric, for metric machine, or all inch, for inch machine. If your machine is in all inch, then you have to convert all values to metric and reload all parameters as metric values.-90% jimmy
I bought this machine past year in Missouri, and came all in inches, but I was surpraised when I was doing by hand a parameters backup, because parameter #M5 and #M9 (both are stroke parameters for XYZ axis), are in milimiters!
Originally Posted by jimiscnc View Post
There is a s/w option called "inch/metric conversion", that can change the units with one softkey. I do not know if this was possible on M32. I definately know it was available on later Fusion and Matrix controls. You may have a long road ahead if you want to purchase this option..-90% jimmy
I wish I find this option
Originally Posted by jimiscnc View Post
This is not all the info available, merely what I happen to know. I suggest you try to develop a relationship with your Mazak chain of command for your geographic area. For example, a complete set of factory original parameters is available for your machine via Mazak spare parts dept. it's approx $500 for this service in the usa and they go back to factory of origin and copy the original parameter sheets for that machine. All manuals are available by this way, also. All manuals now are available in acrobat format. M32 may only be scanned originals converted to acrobat?..-90% jimmy
My near Mazak Dealer is in Argentina, but unfortunately they do not want give me technical assistance until a complete machine registration in Japan!
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Eliseo - you are probably correct. there are some para values that remain metric, even on inch machines. makes it even more confusing!

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Smile Finally machine has been changed from inches to metric!

First of all, thanks to everyone who helped me and demonstrated interest in this topic.

I explain how I changed my machine with Mazatrol M32 control in Inches to Metric system.

First, go to user parameters.
Then, Go to F91 position in the fourth bit put zero (0) If this is one (1) ; or one (1) If this is zero (0).


-Remember Bits are counted from right to left and not vice versa, and always do a copy on a piece of paper before change something!
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