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Old 06-11-2006, 04:38 PM
 
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Hi again All,
Regarding a M5 Mazak with a Meldas 50 control,retrofit.
this machine has been through Hell an beyond ,Ive seen the jaws knocked off the chuck 2 times ,different opperators,programers,several screaming, scherching halts,thunks,rrrrrrrs booms. Im wondering how much can a machine stand ?
My Dad owned a blacksmith shop/hardware/gas station ($.12@gallon,kero$.004gallon)
where I grew up,dirt floor half way,then wood planks to the rear of the "shop" for loading/unloading wagons an susch. Anyway,concreated the floor, new roof ,siding,after the place burnted down(???),We up graded!
I was olded enough to help in the shop now.I stood on wooden Coke crates,hulls(some might remember those) to reach the handles of a brand new Ajax Mazak 18/36.Learned machining with high speed steel toolsteel 1/2 bits,many a ground fingers through the process!,But never ran the saddle or tool, etc.into the chuck,fictures etc.In the process we modified many a flatbelt drive to be productive machines.Bla, Bla, I know getting long winded here,an off topic,
Ive repaired this nmachine several times,headstock to tailstock,A learing expearence!
Does one ever wearout?
Do you keep shiming ,aligning,replacing,adjasting program?
When is enough enough?
Bear

P.S. can you tell Ive about had enough?
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Old 06-11-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear
Do you keep shiming ,aligning,replacing,adjasting program?
When is enough enough?
It sounds like you have reached it.

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its like a car , something breaks you fix it , it all depends upon how much you like it , everything is replacable but becomes obsolete and parts are harder to find and expensive ,
its a matter of deciding if youve got something good worth spending money on , or an anchor
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Well Bear, The equipment we deal with at work is Printing from all over Europe, Israel, USA. We have fabricated some parts with the limited tools we have but sensors and electronics have a lifespan as well (in your case, the retrofit.)

A Ford/Chevy pickup will outlast a Honda or Toyota, I dont care what anyone says. Its part to do with how well its taken care of. Dosent mean u cant take it a lil' 4 wheelin now n then but to do your best to clean her off and change her oil. Like dertsap mentioned, parts become harder to find over the years and ebay is a saint for finding these sometimes.
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Thanks All,
I guess I was just venting.
Not my machine.

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All equipment is like an elastic band. You can take a new elastic band and strech it many many times. Finally it will break, so you tie a knot in it. You continue streching the band, but it doesn't take as many cycles to break it, so you tie another knot. After a while there's no band left, you just have a big knot, that isn't good for much. Just remember if you only strech the band to half it's strech you get way more cycles(close to a factor of 4) than if you pull until all the strech is gone.
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A friend used to do auto repairs for a Lieutenant in the police dept. of a major city. He'd sit there while his car was being worked on telling stories about this that and the other thing. Some real unbelieveable tales....

The amazing part, he said was the amount of abuse that some women would take before they finally did something drastic as in shoot their boyfriend. When asked why they did that (shoot the guy), the most common reply was, "... I got tired of him beating on me and I just couldn't take it anymore....".

Sort of an embodiment of the "head beating axiom".

Q: Why do you beat your head against the wall???

A. Because it feels so good when I quit....

The parables of life are just simply too good to live by sometimes.....
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Nc, thats very deep. There was once a contest with reward to the creator of perpetual motion machine. Many inventors did everything in their power stressing to make this invention. In conclusion, the possibility of perpetual motion surpassed the capabilities of human beings -at the time- although it did create progress in technology.

The factor that is missed entirely is the fact that nothing physical lasts forever, metal wood composite would eventually break or fail.

ALTHOUGH, it is said that those in space age slower than those on earth partially due to gravity I would assume.

The only being capable of controling gravity is God himself.
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