right Angle Head help

[inkydo69]

OK, this may sound like a dumb question! I need to know what i am doing wrong. I am using a right angle head for like the first time. It looks correct when i run it in master cam Even moves only in x and y, but the code don't look right it is still outputting in the wrong format. I should be drilling in X- but it still post in z-. I got to be missing something. I would love some help

Maybe Its just looks wrong and i need to put the right G code in it to switch it in the machine. This is a Hass Vertical Mill.

Thanks

[cadcam]

Did you setup a aggragated head tooling and setup the proper post for this?

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by inkydo69 OK, this may sound like a dumb question! I need to know what i am doing wrong. I am using a right angle head for like the first time. It looks correct when i run it in master cam Even moves only in x and y, but the code don't look right it is still outputting in the wrong format. I should be drilling in X- but it still post in z-. I got to be missing something. I would love some help Maybe Its just looks wrong and i need to put the right G code in it to switch it in the machine. This is a Hass Vertical Mill. Thanks

Well your first time is never for many of us. I never used one because most shops are too cheap to buy one.

This will be an interesting thread.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by inkydo69 Even moves only in x and y, but the code don't look right it is still outputting in the wrong format. I should be drilling in X- but it still post in z-. I got to be missing something

cadcam is correct, your post must be modified, and the machine have an aggregate head added to it's configuration

With the tool vertical, all interpolation is done in the G17 or XY plane with Z being the 3rd axis, in this plane arcs have I & J values to get their swing
eg
G0 X0. Y0. Z0.
G17 G2 X0. Y-6. I3. J0. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom )
eg
G0 X0 Y0. Z0.
G17 G2 X0. Y-6. Z-1. I3. J0. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom with Z going deeper by 1)

But
When you machine from the right side, all the interpolation is in the G19 or YZ plane and X is the 3rd axis, arcs have J & K values.
eg
G0 X0. Y0. Z0.
G19 G3 Y0. Z-6. J0. K3. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom )
eg
G0 X0. Y0. Z0.
G19 G3 Y0. Z-6. X-1. J0. K3. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom with X going deeper by 1)

( not sure if the following will work )( it may open it up for some other suggestions )
You may be able to fudge it by using a ballnose ( WCS = top, cplane=top, tplane=right or something similar and manually modify the output )( you may have to turn off gouge checking in your ops ).

[cadcam]

Superman, has hit the correct thoughts to look for. I have done some preaty wild things with them in the past including full 3d work going bake ten years ago on version % of mastercam.

I am going to share a video on this subject, this was put together by a friend from this board named Degmc. this is a very helpful and on this exact subject. this will be much easer then trying to write it in a post.
Download and extract this a 51 meg file.
http://www.mastercam-cadcam.com/video.zip

[tobyaxis]

You guys are indeed Crafty

[inkydo69]

Originally Posted by cadcam Did you setup a aggragated head tooling and setup the proper post for this?

Originally Posted by tobyaxis Well your first time is never for many of us. I never used one because most shops are too cheap to buy one. This will be an interesting thread.

Originally Posted by Superman cadcam is correct, your post must be modified, and the machine have an aggregate head added to it's configuration With the tool vertical, all interpolation is done in the G17 or XY plane with Z being the 3rd axis, in this plane arcs have I & J values to get their swing eg G0 X0. Y0. Z0. G17 G2 X0. Y-6. I3. J0. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom ) eg G0 X0 Y0. Z0. G17 G2 X0. Y-6. Z-1. I3. J0. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom with Z going deeper by 1) But When you machine from the right side, all the interpolation is in the G19 or YZ plane and X is the 3rd axis, arcs have J & K values. eg G0 X0. Y0. Z0. G19 G3 Y0. Z-6. J0. K3. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom ) eg G0 X0. Y0. Z0. G19 G3 Y0. Z-6. X-1. J0. K3. F10. ( Semi-circle from top to bottom with X going deeper by 1) ( not sure if the following will work )( it may open it up for some other suggestions ) You may be able to fudge it by using a ballnose ( WCS = top, cplane=top, tplane=right or something similar and manually modify the output )( you may have to turn off gouge checking in your ops ).

Originally Posted by cadcam Superman, has hit the correct thoughts to look for. I have done some preaty wild things with them in the past including full 3d work going bake ten years ago on version % of mastercam. I am going to share a video on this subject, this was put together by a friend from this board named Degmc. this is a very helpful and on this exact subject. this will be much easer then trying to write it in a post. Download and extract this a 51 meg file. http://www.mastercam-cadcam.com/video.zip

OK i did change the config and added the aggregate head, but Super hit it on the nose! I had a bad feeling i would need to Change the post. I was wishing I could use the post I had configured for this shop, but looks like I get to do a new one for free this time ><. Oh I did try to fudge it didnt seem to work for me.

If anyone has a hass post with this setup feel free to email me at inkydo69@netzero.net and thanks for the help.

I am going to check out the video its down loading as I type. "Takes years at this shop I am consulting for lol"

[inkydo69]

Just looked at the video very well done thanks!

[cadcam]

Here is a post to go with it. should be for X2 and higher

[Derek Goodwin]

Here's the original article

Hey cadcam, what days are you going to be at westec? I will be there Monday thru Wednesday

[inkydo69]

Thanks everyone!!!!

Hope I can repay the favor.

[inkydo69]

Just so you all know worked very well!

Cadcam the post worked very well i will send post a it back when i get time to edit to post for a hass gantry bed mill so everyone has it.

Thanks again!
Inky