Does anybody know how to make X2 look like V9?
ObrienDave. MasterCam since V6. Gcode since 1983.
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sorry no such thing that was a rumor when X was released. The best you get is the classic drop downs from the menu line on top.
Programmer/ Certified Cam Instructor
Why would you want that? I find that customizing my toolbar states and my RMB that thing are much easier and more organized. It takes awhile to find what work for you but give it sometime and read up on the functions and you will be a programming guru in no time flat.
I can roll through a menu faster than I can pick a glyph.
I was disappointed to find out I can't use the keyboard to create geometry. An example is CFR = Create, Fillet, Radius or ClRP = Create Line Perpendicular to a point.
X2 looks like a steep learning curve from V9.... well, steep for me anyway.
If you had put your seat time in when X came out, you'd have a super easy time with X2.
If you spend some honest time trying to learn it AND set up your toolbars to match the way you like to work you'll love X2 in no time.
If you must use the keyboard, many of the old keystrokes are the same or similar. The difference is that you first must press and release the ALT key... After you do this you will see the underscore at the top of the screen under FILE, EDIT, CREATE, etc...
ALT >> C >> L >> E
would bring you to the Create Line Endpoint ribbon bar.
You hit the nail on the head Matt.
Many of the shortcut keys work.
BUT, not all. I can navigate V9 blindfolded. Simply pressing the ESC
key takes you back one command. So I rapid fire the ESC key and I
know I'm back at main menu. And I haven't got to monkey with Alt key.
Glyphs were a boon to word processors because you spend most of your
time typing and only once in a while selecting a function.
The opposite is true with a cad system when making geo from a complex
blueprint. You live by functions.
I heard they did it because Boeing wanted look and feel of catia. A hardcore
design package that truly needs tool strips full of glyphs because there are so
dang many things designers and engineers can do. IMO they should have
taken the opposite tack, and made the sketcher workbench look and feel
like the worlds best cnc programming software -until X that is-. Admit it Matt,
they munged it. Even Help|Update Mastercam is broken. What does that tell
you. Operations Manager window is a nice idea but needs a 22" wide screen
Not at all.
I LOVE the new interface and never used the keyboard much in V8 or V9. I feel that people who don't like the interface are hung-up on V9's interface and haven't put enough serious effort into X.
Seriously, how many of the original toolbars are you still using ? I would guess you didn't bother to change any of them.
Myself, the answer is 0. I re-arranged everything to my own specifications and it is way better.
A seat of Mastercam costs thousands of dollars... You'll buy that but won't treat yourself to a 22" widescreen monitor ? That is exactly what I use and it's great.Operations Manager window is a nice idea but needs a 22" wide screen
I think engineers and managers like the goodies. Me, I just want meat
and potatoes. So much power in that 3" strip in V9. I do use some icons.
Plane selection comes to mind, they're bigger targets in 9. A good mouse
is tempting. But a keyboard will smoke a mouse.
As for the monitor, I would also have get a dual monitor graphics card so I
can run an editor on the one I have now. I didn't buy any of this, it's all
requisitioned through the company. Kind of like pulling teeth. I talked them
into X because of level 3 5 axis grandfather clause.
Millcat even in X I find I use 70% keys still as I was a key person but I can say after being a user from the start I hate going back to V9 when I have to support someone in that version and I loved V9.1 mr105 but I also loved V6.1A.
But the support and tools in the newer out does the V9 easly oh and for teaching it it is so much easer and most catch on faster I am finding.
So you know almost all video cards these days come with dual connections.
As for dual monitors I have ran this way before X came out its a must for me.
With X2 MR2 I can now have the ops manger and the levels manger open all the time on the other monintor that rocks.
Millcat just jump in and check back with us on the keys we will help you.
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
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I know, I know.
After many years on a pair of Mazaks w/ CAM M2 I thought Mazatrol was the
sh*t. Then after about 5 years on a pair of Fadals with Gibbs Cam I
remember telling the programmer in the office I thought Gibbs was easier
than Mastercam. He said noway, if you spend some time with it you'll never
go back. He was right. Though I still introduce new operators to it.
Gibbs is icon driven and using a Fadal vertical keyboard made my wrist hurt
more than driving a mouse around, so I used the mouse. And that's the
problem I have with any icon driven interface. My wrist starts to hurt from
driving the mouse around the screen.
Mastercam 9 freed me from the mouse. And it's a cleaner interface. The
more black I see, The better.