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    Using a 45 deg chamfer tool

    Hi guys I would like to break the edge of my part with a chamfer tool in my HAAS minimill.

    When I select 2D chamfer Mastercam cuts the chamfer but it looks heavy. If I set a "0" z depth it automatically puts it -.2 on the Z. Much too deep. How do I correct this? I must not be setting something right?

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    What shape is your tool? I do not know Mastercam, but there could be a typical problem with setting the Z offset to the end of a truncated cone. Since you cannot touch off the non-existent point, you might still have to allow for the depth of the non-existent portion of the cone.

    You might have to fiddle with your tool description (correct it) or else reinterpret the manner in which you set the length offset for this type of tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuFlungDung View Post
    What shape is your tool? I do not know Mastercam, but there could be a typical problem with setting the Z offset to the end of a truncated cone. Since you cannot touch off the non-existent point, you might still have to allow for the depth of the non-existent portion of the cone.

    You might have to fiddle with your tool description (correct it) or else reinterpret the manner in which you set the length offset for this type of tool.
    Thanks for the reply. The shape is 1/2" round chamfer tool with a 45 deg angle When I set the Z depth to "0" in parameters page Mastercam post process's a Z depth of -.200

    I set the Z to +.180 in parameters page to get a -.020 Z depth of cut. Weird.

    I guess I will have to modify it each time I want to use it.


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    Must be something to do with your geometry. Are you programming on a 2D wire? or 3D? For example, this will post out a different Z then what you set:

    If the Z level of your feature is below 0 (say @ -.200), and on your tool parameter page, you tell it to cut at 0 incremental. It will then post out a cut at Z-.200.

    There are other variations too. 3D geometry can also "alter" what you think you might be cutting at if the tool/cut parameters aren't set correctly.
    It's just a part..... cutter still goes round and round....


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    Quote Originally Posted by COPO427 View Post
    Hi guys I would like to break the edge of my part with a chamfer tool in my HAAS minimill.

    When I select 2D chamfer Mastercam cuts the chamfer but it looks heavy. If I set a "0" z depth it automatically puts it -.2 on the Z. Much too deep. How do I correct this? I must not be setting something right?

    Thanks
    Have you played around with the numbers in the chamfer dialog ?

    I suspect the tip offset is responsible for the confusion...

    See picture...



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    +1000 to matt, look there.


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    Good call Matt.....

    I don't ever use the chamfer dialog and didn't think of it...
    It's just a part..... cutter still goes round and round....


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    You can check your tool point also. Mastercam defaults to a tool with a flat on the bottom. Edit the tool to a point if that is the type you are using


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    I would do what Matt sugested then run a backplot in the side view. Here you will get an idea of how deep the tool will cut.


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    I would do what Matt sugested then run a backplot in the side view. Here you will get an idea of how deep the tool will cut.


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    I've had some difficulties with chamfer tools in that I now input .062" for the tool tip and the same .062 for the tool diameter. I use tool comp with lead in and lead out, set the Z at -.035 and then use changes in the Z and D to get the edge I'm looking for. I'm sure there's an easier way, but I plod alone with what I know hoping to learn more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugg View Post
    I've had some difficulties with chamfer tools in that I now input .062" for the tool tip and the same .062 for the tool diameter. I use tool comp with lead in and lead out, set the Z at -.035 and then use changes in the Z and D to get the edge I'm looking for. I'm sure there's an easier way, but I plod alone with what I know hoping to learn more.
    There is an easier way...

    I define my tool exactly as it measures. I set the chamfer dialog exactly as the work piece requires. I get a chamfer that is exactly right. There is no smoke and mirrors involved with this feature.

    What difficulty have you had ?


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