Sieg X3 "hybrid"

[skullworks]

Note about that mill - it has a 6 speed geared head. The motor will always be providing peak power.

Also like the X3 - these gears are noisy.

This is a runt copy of the IH mill (which I have) it will likely have a more rigid column than an X3 (have one of those too).

I am doing the CNC conversion on the X3, but the IH is in the larger Bridgeport size class and I'll keep it with its DRO as a manual machine.

[pobanion]

I personally have never run an X3 before but I do find the gears of the MD003 surprisingly quiet. I don't find the machine noisy at all.

[jalessi]

Pobanion,

Posting "You Tube" video's may curb the rumors being passed around about the performance of the machines you sell.

Jeff...

[pobanion]

That is a very good idea Jeff... I think I will do that.

Pat

[Crevice Reamer]

Originally Posted by pobanion That is a very good idea Jeff... I think I will do that. Pat

Please also make sure the specs on your Website are complete and correct. I have a feeling they are not doing the best selling job for your machine.

Maybe you would like to POINT OUT the advantages of yours over the X3.

CR.

[pobanion]

Thanks for the feed back CR...
But all the specs on my site are correct. As for the completeness goes, that is kind of a function of what information a particular individual is looking for. I try to have the most common specs available for everyone. If someone needs additional info, I would be happy to look that info up for them if they request it. And if I get a lot of requests for the same bit of info, then I will be happy to post it.

I have had calls/e-mails in the past for specs that I would not consider standard and I am always happy to provide them.

I don't think it was ever my intention to directly compete with one specific model (the X3 for example). The specs are available to anyone who does want to make a comparison though. And again if there is something else anyone needs to know... All they have to do is ask.

Thanks,
Pat

[Crevice Reamer]

Originally Posted by pobanion Thanks for the feed back CR... But all the specs on my site are correct.

Specifications
Size of table: 20.5 x 6.25"
Y axis travel: 6.25"
X axis travel: 12.5"
Motor: 0.5 HP 110V 1 Ph
Number of speeds: 6
Range of spindle speed: 115-1700 rpm
Spindle travel: 3.375"
Spindle taper: R8
Drilling capacity: 1"
Max mill capacity(End/Face): 0.75/2.5"
Max Dist. spindle nose to table: 17.5"
Dist. spindle axis to column: 8"
Swivel angle of headstock: 90°
Net/gross weight: 396/550 Lbs



Stand sold separately

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SKU SKU16135
Weight 550.00 lbs
Price: CDN$1299.99

So motor is 1/2 HP?
Spindle travel is actually QUILL travel. What is HEAD (Or Z axis) travel?
So this machine weighs BOTH 396 and 550 pounds? Is that a heavy shipping crate or what?

CR.

[pobanion]

Yes the motor is 1/2 HP.

The Z travel is listed as...
Max Dist. spindle nose to table: 17.5"

I listed the 550lbs just as a kind of average. Most of the machines get shipped with a stand packaged with it so the 550lbs includes the weight of the stand and the crate. I repackage them before I ship them out because the factory crates are pretty thin. I use 7/16 OSB on a 2 x 4 crate frame which is a little on the heavy side but a lot stronger than the paper thin factory crates. I have never had any trouble from my shipper with what I list on the BOL as far as the weight goes.

If you are interested in the exact weight of the machine, the stand and the crate I would be happy to look it up for you.

[Crevice Reamer]

Originally Posted by pobanion Yes the motor is 1/2 HP. The Z travel is listed as... Max Dist. spindle nose to table: 17.5" I listed the 550lbs just as a kind of average. Most of the machines get shipped with a stand packaged with it so the 550lbs includes the weight of the stand and the crate. I repackage them before I ship them out because the factory crates are pretty thin. I use 7/16 OSB on a 2 x 4 crate frame which is a little on the heavy side but a lot stronger than the paper thin factory crates. I have never had any trouble from my shipper with what I list on the BOL as far as the weight goes. If you are interested in the exact weight of the machine, the stand and the crate I would be happy to look it up for you.

Thanks for the clarification. And just to be clear: The spindle to table distance is not always the same as the travel. Are you saying the the spindle nose can actually be lowered to TOUCH the table? Then that WOULD be the Z travel.

CR.

[skullworks]

pobanion

Also add a few more up close and full pics from different angles for each model, the stock "publicity" photo only goes so far. Perhaps with a Kurt 6" vise for scale.

BTW major Kudos for re-crating the machine before final shipment. I ordered an IH mill and while the machine arrived much of the crate did not.

[IanRogers]

For anyone who is interested - I purchased the MD003+ from Paul at MTW, and while I haven't run the machine yet (as it's still in pieces from the move to the basement) I can personally attest to the quality of the shipping crate. It arrived in pristine condition, and I actually had to hatchet off a corner of the box to get my prybar in there - 2x4 uprights, on an extremely sturdy pallet, and a couple of hundred nails! It took quite some effort to get into it!

Hth.

~ Ian

[pobanion]

Hi Ian...

I am glad you liked it.

Pat