CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Machine Controllers Software and Solutions > Mach Software (ArtSoft software) > Machines running Mach Software


Machines running Mach Software Discuss your set-up and experiences running your machine using Mach software here.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 01-11-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
Mach3 Fault when Drive faults.

I am new to Mach3 and have encountered when the drives are set up with too much acceleration missed steps occur with the servo encoder. What happens is that Mach3 now Zero's the offending axis and continues the loaded program well beyond the extents of the machine.

I have adjusted down the acceleration and max speed for each drive to prevent this, but would like Mach3 to hault the Mill when a servo encoder error happens.

Where is this in the program? What is it called so that I can look for it?

Thanks.


Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 01-11-2011, 04:09 PM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 20,458
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

You need you're servo drives to send a signal to Mach3 telling it to stop. You probably want to use the Estop pin, so that when the drives fault, Mach3 goes into E Stop.
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 01-11-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
Thanks.

I will have to look and see if the Gecko 320X has an output that will change the Estop status.

Too bad each drive doesn't have an open set of contacts as the 4 axis on the Break Out board isn't being used and I have a spare limit switch input on the BOB.

Thanks for the direction to look, I will dig into my Servo Drive manual.

Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 01-11-2011, 06:21 PM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 20,458
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Alan's Gecko 320 circuits
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 01-11-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
Wow.

Gerry thank you very much.

This is impressive with a very well put together manual with Drawings and suggested installation.

Try and find that with the Sound Lodgic Break Out Board.


A little more reading and I should be able to place my order in US Dollars, even a better bargan now that the Canadian dollar is worth more than the US Dollar.

On the down side, I will have to modify my drawings again for my machine.


Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 01-12-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
Still in business????

I tried to find this site to place an order and I am coming up blank.

I supose I could just leave the error reset open and purchase a set of 3 N/O contacts for a push button on the control cabinet to reset the drives when they fault. I suspect that this would only hault the offending axis and still leave me with a mess on my hands with the other 2 axis driving.

Do you have any other suggestions?


Thanks.

Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 01-12-2011, 04:02 PM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 20,458
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

Try here.
are ELECTRONICS Co.
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 01-12-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
Email Sent.

Thank you for the reply.

I spent over an hour reading the manual that I printed off and this would work nicely for my requirement.

I am waiting for the reply from the company.

Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 01-13-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 222
Ark1 is on a distinguished road
UP DATE.

I received a Prompt reply from Allen Rothenbush and he stated the following.

Yes, I think the basic GERC will do what you want.

Basically, the GERC will monitor an EStop input in the form of a NORMALLY CLOSED switch and monitor the Gecko Error/Reset pin(s).

Should something bad happen, either the EStop switch opens or one of the four the Error/Reset inputs signals an error, the GERC will toggle a relay, put the Geckos into RESET and keep them there.


I should note here that all recent Geckos (those built in the last 3 or 4 years) are supposed to do this latter thing all on their own. That is, there is supposed to be a way to wire them up (all by themselves) such that if one goes into error mode, it will put the others into error mode as well.

Now, I've never tried this, I've always just used a GERC but you may not need the GERC to do what you want ...


Alan




So I studied the Gecko 320X manual and it appears that he is correct, but I didn't know if I could interconnect the each drive or had to use separate relays with the relay contacts placed in series with the EPO circuit to halt the machine.

I emailed Marcus Freimanis from Gecko Drive and he stated the following.

Tony,

The ERROR/RESET pin from the drives can be daisy chained, meaning if one of them goes into a FAULT state it will drag them all into a FAULT state.

Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thank you!

Marcus Freimanis
Geckodrive, Inc.
14662 Franklin Ave.
Suite E
Tustin, CA 92780


So according the manual the Error reset terminal or pin is an input/output pin and can be used to drive a 5 volt relay. A reset button is required to take the drives out of fault.

Although this setup will not indicate what drive is at fault, by opening the cabinet door and running the machine again through the program I should be able to see what light comes on with the drive missing steps.

As they say Back to the Drawing Board.

Ark1

TonyK.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fault 123 (spindl drive fault) bigbaz Haas Mills 7 11-26-2010 06:39 PM
Inverter fault / Drive line fault ? TMILLS Fadal 2 10-20-2010 09:20 PM
G320 Fault & Mach3 THend Mach Software (ArtSoft software) 2 11-11-2008 11:07 PM
Baldor drive doesnt power up (Axis faults on cold start) carbidecraters Fadal 7 10-24-2007 02:08 PM
VFD drive Faults on series I cnc Bridgeport colin1544 Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills 3 09-22-2006 05:36 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:04 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361