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Old 04-22-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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I would like to upgrade my Heidenhain Interact 145 C controller to a PC running Mach3 - I have already downloaded and installed Mach3

I would ,if possible, still like to retain the exsiting SEM PM motors and analog Bosch drives as I hear they are bullet proof also the availability of "high voltage" servo drive on a budget are few and far between. The motors have both tacho's on (feed back to the drive?) and some sort of Heidenhain encoder on them (feed back to interact?).

I have done a bit of research and believe something like KFlop is the way to go. I can't find the Rutex product mentioned in a previous thread and believe Skyko product is obsolete!

Now my questions
  • Are there any other options available to me?
  • Can I still use a MPG with Mach if I use KFLOP (through parallel port)
  • Has anyone done this conversion?
  • can I use the exsisting encoders with this conversion?

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Originally Posted by bolttjza View Post
Hi forum

I would like to upgrade my Heidenhain Interact 145 C controller to a PC running Mach3 - I have already downloaded and installed Mach3

I would ,if possible, still like to retain the exsiting SEM PM motors and analog Bosch drives as I hear they are bullet proof also the availability of "high voltage" servo drive on a budget are few and far between. The motors have both tacho's on (feed back to the drive?) and some sort of Heidenhain encoder on them (feed back to interact?).

I have done a bit of research and believe something like KFlop is the way to go. I can't find the Rutex product mentioned in a previous thread and believe Skyko product is obsolete!

Now my questions
  • Are there any other options available to me?
  • Can I still use a MPG with Mach if I use KFLOP (through parallel port)
  • Has anyone done this conversion?
  • can I use the exsisting encoders with this conversion?

Thanks

1. DSPMC/ip. I use it and love it although it is a bit pricey it does handle the analog drives nicely and reads the encoders back into Mach3. It also uses 24v I/O.

2. I Don't know.

3. I am using the DSPMC and Mach3 on my BTC-1 with amt-102 encoders.


4. As long as your encoders are 5 volt I don't see why not. The DSPMC will handle very high encoder counts and fast speeds so no may be the time to upgrade the encoders. Of course if your encoders are 1000 count or better they should be just fine.


I hope this helps, Mike
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Hi Mike

Thanks for the feedback

dspmc/ip
At $995.00 for P/N 7762S it is a bit pricey for me although it looks like a very professional with lots of features.

Kflop costs only $249 yes I am sure I am not comparing apples for apples but kflop is more within my price range if I keep the Bosch servo drives

So does anyone have any experience with Kflop ?

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Originally Posted by bolttjza View Post
Hi Mike

Thanks for the feedback

dspmc/ip
At $995.00 for P/N 7762S it is a bit pricey for me although it looks like a very professional with lots of features.

Kflop costs only $249 yes I am sure I am not comparing apples for apples but kflop is more within my price range if I keep the Bosch servo drives

So does anyone have any experience with Kflop ?

Craig
Hi Craig,
Remember if your drives are analog +-10v you will need the Kanalog option.

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Originally Posted by bolttjza View Post
The motors have both tacho's on (feed back to the drive?) and some sort of Heidenhain encoder on them (feed back to interact?).[*]can I use the exsisting encoders with this conversion?


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It all depends on the model number.
Heidenhain, as well as the 5v TTL type, use a large variety of encoders that are either 11µa or 2v P/P sine wave, these are largely incompatible with the 5v TTL systems.
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Originally Posted by TOTALLYRC View Post
Hi Craig,
Remember if your drives are analog +-10v you will need the Kanalog option.

Mike
I didn't actually relies this but figure it out after I posted. The Mach 3 web site has the plug-in for Kflop+Kanalog for the drives and then I got suspicious.

So, in need to do my cost comparison again!
I will now look at changing the encoders as well.

Incidentally is +- 10v a "standard" for analog drives.

Thanks Al and Mike
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