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    Unhappy lathe speed S and STrue wildly different...

    I am running a stepper as a spindle motor and I cannot get the darn thing set up correctly.

    Here is my setup-

    Mach3
    Smooth Stepper
    200 step/rot pacsci 870 oz in motor.
    14-44 tooth gear reduction. 1 : 3.181 Ratio
    Gecko 203V
    CNC4PC optical tach

    I cant seem to get a steady tach reading under 175RPM. I am not sure what appropriate debounce seetings might be.

    I have tried tons of settings under 'spindle pulleys' and 'motor tuning/spindle' and for the life of me I cant seem to get the motor to turn 1000rpm when I type in S1000.

    This should be simple right? at 200steps/revo, with a 1:3.181 Ratio, I should have 636.2 steps/revo. then I set my pully ratio to 1:1, set my min/max speeds, set velocity and accell and...theoreticlly, I should have accurate control of my spindle. well, suffice it to say that it does not work the way I imagine it should...nothing jives.

    Anyone have any insight? I have been trying to figure this out for over a year off and on, and I am reaching a new level of frustration...

    Thanks,
    Nate.
    Nate.
    Ann Arbor Meechigan


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    Sample Numbers.

    Here is an example of what I am getting given a particular set of seetings.

    Motor Tuning
    Steps 6362
    speed 100
    Accel 10

    Spindle pulleys
    Min speed 0
    max speed 3000
    Ratio 1

    With these settings, I get these results-
    STrue 101
    S 3000


    I hope this example will help someone help me pinpoint the problem. I am at a loss and would really like a hand...

    Best,
    Nate.
    Nate.
    Ann Arbor Meechigan


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    Set spindle pulley Max to the same as the Velocity in Motor Tuning.
    Hood


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    BTW with a stepper you are probably looking at around 1000rpm motor revs max and with the gearing that would mean probably about 300 spindle RPM.
    Hood


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    BTW with a stepper you are probably looking at around 1000rpm motor revs max and with the gearing that would mean probably about 300 spindle RPM.
    Hood

    sure, thats fine by me. this is just for threading and light indexing work like milling flats.

    For normal turning I use a VFD and invertor duty motor.
    Nate.
    Ann Arbor Meechigan


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    hi all

    hitachi seiki spindle amp 626vm3
    when i command 100rpm but spindle rotate 200rpm
    wats the problem got any people know bout the amp parameter??


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    I have found through experimentation that there seem to be one parameter that affects
    mach3 commanded speed and actual spindle speed through the smoothstepper and G540.
    The max spindle speed in the spindle pulleys
    Nothing else has any effect. By manipulating that I can get correspondence to within 120 rpm except at lower spindle speeds.
    I had to set max spindle speed to 1850 to get correspondence at 1480.

    bill a,


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