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Old 03-30-2008, 11:11 PM
 
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Self leveling Epoxy for making linear rail mounting surfaces

I've been looking for an easy way to turn a non-flat steel surface (error~.020" over 56" length) into something suitable for linear rail mounting. My idea is to use a low viscosity epoxy and pour it into a mode built on the steel plate to a depth of about 1/8". I thought i would post this to see what the general consensus is here.

One of the major factors will be the viscosity of the unhardened epoxy mixture. Several companies sell some low viscosity stuff: MAS epoxy looks to be the most promising. Their standard "Mas resin" with a slow hardener has a viscosity of 550-650cst and a work time around 23 min). They also have lower viscosity stuff around 120cst but the minimum quantity is somehting like 4gal. I'm going to give the Mas standard resin a test (mounted on a granite surface plate to accuractly measure the resulting surface).

Two options (from West systems epoxy) for lower the mix viscosity are:
1. Heating the components before mixing (drawback here is the decreased set time)
2. Adding several percent solvent (several were listed). this has several major drawback like lower epoxy strength and increased shrinkage
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look at this thread almost everything is discussed hear on the topic. it is long but bountiful.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30155
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Your idea is a great one. The epoxy properties to make it work are slightly more complex than you might think, but life is good. Here is a link to a company that makes exactly what you need. They do this for a living, so it is a tried and tested solution. I have discussed this application with them and the ability of their epoxy to go "flat" is amazing.

http://www.precisionepoxy.com/

Approx $ 50 / gallon for each component.
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Hi

Have a read through this thread I know Hayden used epoxy to mount his rails on.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30751

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look into system3.com.
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I've done it too, works like a charm.
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I f the idea is to fill in small gaps why not use bondo? the key as I see it is to find a reference edge to use to show what needs filling. You might use a length of aluminum angle. Lay it down on the surface and shine a light under it. Use the bondo to fill in the gaps an sand it smooth with a hard flat sanding block. Just a thought.
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ha...thanks for all the replys
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Svenakela, do you remember what grade/type of epoxy you used. Also, what size of area and thickness did you make.
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Originally Posted by harryn View Post
Your idea is a great one. The epoxy properties to make it work are slightly more complex than you might think, but life is good. Here is a link to a company that makes exactly what you need. They do this for a living, so it is a tried and tested solution. I have discussed this application with them and the ability of their epoxy to go "flat" is amazing.

http://www.precisionepoxy.com/

Approx $ 50 / gallon for each component.
They say its perfectly flat but its actually only as good as the radius of the earth allows. The epoxy will actually be arched at the radius of the earth. Think of it like a smaller version of the "flat" ocean, which wraps itself around the earth.

The error doesn't matter for this application but it is interesting to ponder.

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Originally Posted by keebler303 View Post
They say its perfectly flat but its actually only as good as the radius of the earth allows. The epoxy will actually be arched at the radius of the earth. Think of it like a smaller version of the "flat" ocean, which wraps itself around the earth.


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OK you math wizards If the rail is 4 feet long, how much will it be arched in the center? (Height on center compared to the ends)
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