$500 laser engraver from China

[tinylaser]

Everyone want to buy low cost laser engraver from China directly to save the money.

There are many suppliers in China, some company can provide the good service, some company can not, some of them is a reseller, some is real vendors.

Some skills about how to select the good suppliers:

Key1: If the company sell more than 3 kinds machine, it is a reseller.

Key2: If you call the sales man and ask some questions about laser engravers, if they can not answer you ASAP, it is a reseller.

Key3: If you ask the company to provide the CE document, if they can NOT, it is a reseller, or it is a manufacturer without CE document.

Key4: If a company has many distributors in the world, it is a good manufacturers.

Key5: HONGKONG, GUANGZHOU, SHANGHAI is only a trade city, i think no manufacturer in this city, please clear your eyes.

Key6:They are many small laser engraver(the Model of this machine is almost ?????40A) in china, the selling price in china is only 500 USD, but is only for engraving CHINA rubber stamp, but some supplier sell it to oversea maket with 900-1200 USD, if you buy this machine, i think it no use:
1) It come with moshi draw or newdragon software, it can not cut.
2) the laser power supply is very simple without protection, it is dangerous.
3) only a little copmany make this machine in a small town, the quality is a TOP problem.

If you want to buy this machine, i can tell you where you can buy it. it is almost 500 USD without service and warranty.

[wklaser]

Hi, some of your words are correct. We are the REAL manufacture from China, Also, we have the CE certificate. if you need, kindly contact me . My email sis wklaser@yahoo.com

[tinylaser]

I hope every "real" vendors don't talk big here, if you have CE document, please show your document in CNCZONE.

I only know a little company in China have CE, the CE only for a little model instead of every models.

If everyone buy a laser machine without CE certifcitaed, it is dangerous for end users.

If you are end users, the laser can hurt you some times;
If you are distributors, you client can claim you because the machine without CE.

[coleong]

Hi Tinylaser,

I presume you are working in a laser company.

Is it possible for you to post some pictures of bad laser examples ((
"only a little copmany make this machine in a small town
")) you have seen on CNCZONE.

This will help other people to judge what is bad or is good.

[wklaser]

OK, now I am attaching our CE certificat here, see the attachments plz.

[tinylaser]

To Coleong,

I think you make a misunderstand.
I don't know what is "bad laser examples" as you said.
To be honest, i'm only a reseller in China instead of a vendors.

The laser engraver manufacture in small town is good product and low
cost, but it is only suitable for china market. because of the
design, software limitations, safety standard and etc.

The Europe has CE standand, the US has UL or FDA standard.....
So i think the some china low cost laser engraver is not CE approved
or UL approved, i think it's wrong to tell lies.

Which laser engraver is good or bad? i think the machine with CE
approved is good one.

I sold a almost 150 units low cost laser engraver in China market
every year, the price is almost 500 USD, but i found some supplier
sell this machine with 900-1200 USD in the Internet, so i think they
are not honest, because they earn a lot money and can not provide the
good service.

[kingrabbit]

wklaser,

I doubt if your CE certificate is "real".
I bought one from "world laser", (they told me that they were your dealer in USA). The laser engraver is so bad, I had to spend a lot of time in looking for someone to fix it, making me exhausted. The work by your laser is attached.
I really do NOT believe a laser engraver with CE proved can do such work. For the laser engraver, the emergncy stop button is standard for CE, but I found your machine had no such a button. I know the CE has machine standard, the top important for a laser engraver are EMC and LVD, you only show the EMC document without the LVD, it is funny.
I feel I was so stubpid to follow your company, I was cheated by your company and your dealer.

[wklaser]

Kingrabbit,
I wonder you doubt our CE certificate is nnot real. We don't have a autuorized dealer in USA, I doubit if you are one of our competer just post this article to bespatter us..lol..
One of our clients from UK, who are also a member of the CNC zone, just received our model and they kindly made one website just for our models and intend to resell our products in UK. And also some clients of us in US, and Italy.
Anybody who doubt our machines, CE certificate or after service, can send me private messege or email to this address; wklaser@yahoo.com, I will send their contact info for you.

By the way, we can not guarantee that our products are perfect and the best one in the world, but we can guarantee that once the models you buy are unfortunatrly with a little problem, we will help you with it and must not disappear from the world.

[coleong]

To Tinylaser,

Its good you can write better english then most of the chinese postings on CNCZONE.

Actually i was refering to the following points in your earlier posting:-

2) the laser power supply is very simple without protection, it is dangerous.
3) only a little copmany make this machine in a small town, the quality is a TOP problem
If everyone buy a laser machine without CE certifcitaed, it is dangerous for end users.
If you are end users, the laser can hurt you some times;

I cannot deny what you have said above can be true but i am now wondering why the chinese goverment allows allow the sales of these items.

I have heard and also seen people have their finger crush by stamping machines which the safety removed or bypassed (2 hand button) because they can do the work faster.

Talking about high power lasers - some operators/boss bypass the safety door because the operator can pick up the part when it it tilted and also hear the operator finger burn by laser beam because they cannot remove the finger fast enough when the cutting head return to cut another part close to it.

You are right that some people market the machines with a high profit and does not bother with the aftersales.
On another point just look at the ebay site and the complaints of no goods delivered after payment.
No doubt there are honest people around but a few black sheeps can screw up the system.

Since you are a reseller why don't you have a email address and maybe a wed site? This can help you boost your sales.

[kingrabbit]

I am offended. I spent almost $2400 and got a garbage with very bad service. I am very very angry. Why you let me ask your UK dealer about CE, how can he be clearer than your company? Who can fix my laser engraver.
Your CE was issued in August, but you posted a thread in November, you said you published a new Model LG500. You beat yourself, how can you get the CE before you manufacure the machine? I find LG500 machine in you website, it is diffrent to that you posted in CNCZONE. I don't know which "LG500" is CE approved. DO NOT cheat us.

[wklaser]

Hi Kingrabbit,
I can understand your feeling, but why you did not ask the seller to solve your problem. Regarding the CE about new LG500, don't worry, I just post it here when it got CE market. We did not publish it till it is CE marked.
I am confused, why you said I beat myself? I just found this website on October, how can I post this article here before October?

[ServoGuy]

Originally Posted by kingrabbit I am offended. I spent almost $2400 and got a garbage with very bad service. I am very very angry. Why you let me ask your UK dealer about CE, how can he be clearer than your company? Who can fix my laser engraver. Your CE was issued in August, but you posted a thread in November, you said you published a new Model LG500. You beat yourself, how can you get the CE before you manufacure the machine? I find LG500 machine in you website, it is diffrent to that you posted in CNCZONE. I don't know which "LG500" is CE approved. DO NOT cheat us.

KingRabbit,
Please tell us a little about yourself.
Where do you live?
What do you do for a living?
What kinds of things are you planning on doing with your laser?
Do you like the Bronco’s?