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Yes, it is a more expensive machine, not because of the software :
-working area 635mm x 458mm
-rotary option
-dual head option

The best of this machine is the auto-focusing system and you may open the front & back door to engrave long pieces as well it has internal memory to store up to 100 cutting/engraving files.

Yet it is far more expensive
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:26 AM
 
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I may make any size the laser to cut the machine
Size scope: 10-2400 millimeter
Power: 15-200W
Contains the complete software,Air system,Laser,Optics lens,Controls the electrical machinery...

He makes in China,The price is low

If you need,May tell yours request I,Perhaps I can give you the good price
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:28 AM
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Hey Steve,
I see you purchased through Ink Express. How was the buying experience. I have been looking at the larger laser but had my reservations because they are overseas and I would have no recourse if something went wrong. How about freight and customs?
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:14 AM
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Hey txcowdog,

The Ink Express buying experience... Overall, the buying experience was more positive than negative. But it wasn't perfect. At this point, I am still glad that I bought it.

Before I bought mine, I did download the manual. According to the manual, it could do what I wanted and needed it to do. I was fairly sold.

I would advise you to try to find the manual for the model in which you are interested in the "downlord" section of their website. If there are any features you see that are essential to you, be sure to ask them BEFORE you buy if that feature is really supported.

In my case, the manual indicates that the engraver should work as a stand alone plotter. But, that feature isn't actually supported. So, I must use their software to design and to control the machine.

Payment was wierd. They accept wire transfer or xcoin. I decided on xcoin. So, I set up a separate bank account and deposited the exact amount that the machine would cost. Then I set up an xcoin account. But xcoin has limits on the amount you can transfer from an "unverified" account and it takes awhile to verify an account. (Verification required faxing proof of identity to a number in Canada which gets forwarded to xcoin's headquarters in China or HongKong - then waiting for them to decide whether to verify your account - which could take DAYS) It was faster to go back to the bank and make more accounts and set up the xcoin account to pull from multiple bank accounts.

Shortly after the money was sent, I got a receipt from Ink Express and it didn't take all that long (2 weeks +/-) to get to Los Angeles. But it ended up in customs for a couple more weeks.

I am not sure if mine got damaged in shipping or if the guys in customs were less than subtle in their searching, but the power supply was gutted and the styrofoam had been rather smashed and lots of pieces of foam were strewn thru the machine.

But the power supply was easily fixed and the foam vacuumed out.

When I went to run it for the first time, the laser head went to the homing position, but it didn't want to stop. You know the sound, like when a flatbed scanner wants to keep going...turns out that the limit switch is a proximity sensor, but the metal tab had bent. I readjusted the tab and turned it back on and it went home without a hitch.

Also, my water filter unit was faulty, but that is just a cheap aquarium pump. Got another for about $10. That wasn't made by them, so I can't really fault them too much (only a little)

Anyway, it has been working fine since then.

But I have had issue with their software, since the software that comes with my machine only supports pixel based graphics (bmp and jpg.) It does work. And it is easy. But, I was really looking forward to using it to cut out CAD files. Their "support" has been less than stellar, as in (and I am paraphrasing) "Yes, you are right. The option you want doesn't work"

Would I buy another from them? Well, it seems the price for the one I got may be cheaper at:
http://www.hxlaser.com/en/index.htm

Another to consider is:
http://www.chinaoptronics.com/engraver.htm

Knowing that support from overseas is limited, you might consider going the cheapest route.

It is hard for me to give a glowing recommendation, but for the money...it really is a fun toy. If you feel reasonably certain that the model you want really can do what you want and need it to do, then it could be a great tool and tremendous value.

If I can hack their software and make it "plot" CAD files, then I would say it was a great investment. For now, I wish their were more support and I wish they felt compelled to make their device perform like in the manual...

If I have any advice...
I would send email to all three and see who sends email back to you.
Ask some pointed and direct questions about functionality and see which company is best able to aswer your questions.

Most of all, I wish you luck.

For me, so far, no regrets. Sorting it out is the kind of challenge I like.

As always, caveat emptor
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:45 AM
 
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I thought you lack the understanding regarding China's product,Because the Chinese industry is very centralized,Produces one kind of product the crowd to like concentrating in an area,For instance this small laser machine,His centralized area in north,In order to reduce the cost to produce the merchant to need the batch the purchase,Specially outer covering and plate work,But can have the massive factories in the short time also to produce the same product,Like this everybody outward appearance has been similar,But internal structure and software,The performance is very big not same,But American and Europe's people all do not understand this

I designed the production laser in China to cut the machine already very many years,If you have the interest to the Chinese product,I may provide the consultation for you,
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Old 05-09-2006, 10:24 AM
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It is likely to be true that people outside of China do not understand how things are made there. I know I don't.

I do know that there are several vendors selling laser engravers that look very much the same and are sold as having much the same features.

I would say that the limited amount of information makes it dificult to tell the difference.

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I am not sure I understand the consultation that you provide?

Can you tell me how the hardware works?
What data is it expecting?
Can the InkExpress IE300 operate with HP-GL instructions?
Must I use the MoshiSoft software?
Is there other software available that will support DXF and DWG without conversion?

Mine looks like the one in the attached photo. I can also take pictures of the control board if that helps.

Thank you
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Old 05-09-2006, 10:59 AM
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Hi I was wondering if anyone could look at the following thread and give me some advice:
Laser Engraving

....sorry for hyjacking this one!
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sidi_steve,

Do you mind telling us what you paid for the machine?

Thanks,
Paul
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Old 05-09-2006, 11:40 AM
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I paid the posted rate:
http://www.iehk.net/Products/IE300.html
$1199 + $250 shipping

After I bought it, I got a quote for less from:
http://www.hxlaser.com/en/products/chapter.htm

And supposedly, the software at HX does support vector AND raster images...
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Sidi_steve:
Your this machine,He uses the software and the PCNC controller and the computer and the WIN software work,The old machine uses HPLI,PLT,Now has the new machine,Uses DXF,PLT,BMP,JPG,Even more the senior software may in CAD,POTOSHOP,In CORELWAR works directly,Also may differentiate the color the use

Is not,Your software is specificEach producer's software name all is different,But it is a pity,They have established the different controller,Therefore the software cannot use together,This is possibly the commercial interest consideration,In this price machine,The software all is the difference not big,Because this machine is designed the manufacture circle the seal,Therefore this is his key point,If you need to make other artwares,Advertisement advertisement POP...,Then you need the senior machine,Although his price is not very high
If this small machine price is USD900,Then the 600*900 millimeter laser possible price is USD5000-8500,But a 1200*800 millimeter machine is possibly USD6500-13000,And this reference price contains you to be able imagine possessing to cut the machine about the laser the components and the software,Certainly each country can some differencesSpecially software language and price,As well as customs' outer covering packing

Certainly these machines sold to outside China the local price to be able to be higher than this locality,The reason is the exportation product has the special cost, They will not like for these small prices machines providing later to serve,I in mine company,Is attempting to change this condition,Provides the service for mine customer,Possibly is the network,Returns to the repair,Or goes to your depot level maintenance,Certainly in permission scope,And I am this goal diligently,Once attempted seeks the proxy sale and the service means,But it is a pity I not found the appropriate agent in US and Europe


Diarmaid:
You saw comes from China's middle to this machine,Wuhan Hubei,There is center laser 1.th several areas of concentration
This machine is used for to make the handicraft
Regretted,I cannot understand you % digital meaning

If you have the question,Welcome to inquire me











China's laser sale merchants,Factory,Now all busy deals with the product order the time pressure,Actually I am the hope provide us to the world the outstanding machine,Possibly lacks in the world advertisements propaganda and the introduction,I also hoped can sell this machine to world each country,Our product superiority is,The product quality is good,The price is low,Although the present also has the service and the time question,But this machine so long as cannot have the question according to the correct operating procedure work,Moreover I instruct my customer operator's correct method of work,I hoped can have many friends to act sells my machine,With purchases my machineAnd has more new products to produce by the unceasing design.

If you have about the Chinese product question need to consult,I can answer you with every effort,But my English too bad,Or you attempt yours question narration are more detailed,Perhaps I may understand
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:53 PM
 
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hkxy....are you in Hong Kong?
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I live in Beijing

Moreover I have the manufacture sale service in QINGDAO SHANGHAI BEIJINGMainly is the manufacture sells LASER to cut machine,3AXIS-CNC,DIY-CNC.

Moreover I also want to act sell come from American and Europe's CNC product,If you have the cargo which may sell,Also may ask me to sell in China,For example CNC controller,Electrical machinery,CNC components....
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