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Old 05-29-2007, 10:35 PM
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Joe's CNC 4x4 Hybrid

Ok, alot of people have been asking about the machine, So after alot of thinking, designing, building, redesigning, rebuilding (three times) this is what i have thus far, it uses the my Carriage design on the X-Axis as well as the Y-Axis, the machine is accessed from the front. The X-Axis will actually be across the machine and the Y-Axis is front to back (Two motors). Using the STMD Drivers and the Keling 425oz motors, because of the length of the lead screws I travel at 120ipm. which is pleanty for me for a home built machine, (as it is I cut at 80 to 100 with rapids of 200ipm on my present machine). Using the 1/2"-8 two start acme, Dumpster Anti-backlash, and so on, the setup is very smooth, I will try to use a PC 7518 eventually on it but for now will prob. use the Hitachi.

Ok, what I am asking from you guys is to help design the Z-Axis as you can see in the picture the Z-Axis slide will be a bolt on to the front, 4-5/16" bolts. the width has to be 6" total for the bolt on plate and the over all width can not exceed 7.5" (to alow for the 48" travel) the bottom of the Axis carriage is 5.5" from table top and have to count for the auto tool changer. I have 4 V-Bearings which will be used for the Z-Axis slide. I have a few idea's but would like a little input and additional thoughts.

So if you can please submit DWG files and we can discuss them and maybe you will be the one to design my Z-Axis.

Thanks, Joe
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Looking very cool Joe.

I'm still trying to get my head around building your current one, but will be watching this project in parallel with great interest.

All the best with this one.

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Originally Posted by joe2000che View Post
Ok, alot of people have been asking about the machine, So after alot of thinking, designing, building, redesigning, rebuilding (three times) this is what i have thus far, it uses the my Carriage design on the X-Axis as well as the Y-Axis, the machine is accessed from the front. The X-Axis will actually be across the machine and the Y-Axis is front to back (Two motors). Using the STMD Drivers and the Keling 425oz motors, because of the length of the lead screws I travel at 120ipm. which is pleanty for me for a home built machine, (as it is I cut at 80 to 100 with rapids of 200ipm on my present machine). Using the 1/2"-8 two start acme, Dumpster Anti-backlash, and so on, the setup is very smooth, I will try to use a PC 7518 eventually on it but for now will prob. use the Hitachi.

Ok, what I am asking from you guys is to help design the Z-Axis as you can see in the picture the Z-Axis slide will be a bolt on to the front, 4-5/16" bolts. the width has to be 6" total for the bolt on plate and the over all width can not exceed 7.5" (to alow for the 48" travel) the bottom of the Axis carriage is 5.5" from table top and have to count for the auto tool changer. I have 4 V-Bearings which will be used for the Z-Axis slide. I have a few idea's but would like a little input and additional thoughts.

So if you can please submit DWG files and we can discuss them and maybe you will be the one to design my Z-Axis.

Thanks, Joe
Darn you man, will it never end... Very nice Joe!!

It's not a DWG drawing but how about something like this:

http://www.cadcamcadcam.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=141

Looks like they are using 4 V-Bearings for the Y-Axis but the same could be applied to the Z with a narrower rail.
I purchased a bunch of the same bearings and rails also have been looking at Thomson slides and rails at Nook. Thinking about the same type of slide set up for a future machine or a mod to my Joe's 2006. Haven't put it to paper yet. Well back to checking out your pictures...

Thanks for sharing!!

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Old 05-29-2007, 11:17 PM
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That is where i got the V-Bearings and would like to utilize them in the Z-Axis. 299.00 for the slide is a little more i wanted to pay and only has 4" travel. need atleast 6".

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Don't blame you! I wasn't suggesting a purchase, just the idea

Haven't gotten anything else drawn but I believe I have the # 2 bearings and rails drawn accurately in AutoCAD if you haven't done it yet and are interested.

Are you using the skate bearing and aluminum angle on the X & Y?

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Originally Posted by ccsparky View Post
Don't blame you! I wasn't suggesting a purchase, just the idea

Haven't gotten anything else drawn but I believe I have the # 2 bearings and rails drawn accurately in AutoCAD if you haven't done it yet and are interested.

Are you using the skate bearing and aluminum angle on the X & Y?

Bob
Yes, X and Y just like the Z-Axis carriage on present machine.

The Z i was thinking two Concentric bushing and V-groove wheel #2 on Lt. side and Two Eccentric bushing and V-groove wheel #2 on the Rt side, Two 12" V-tracts bolted to a 1/2" x 6" x 12" alumn. plate, and Anti-backlash screwed to angle on rear. Just need to draw it up.

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Originally Posted by joe2000che View Post
Yes, X and Y just like the Z-Axis carriage on present machine.

The Z i was thinking two Concentric bushing and V-groove wheel #2 on Lt. side and Two Eccentric bushing and V-groove wheel #2 on the Rt side, Two 12" V-tracts bolted to a 1/2" x 6" x 12" alumn. plate, and Anti-backlash screwed to angle on rear. Just need to draw it up.

Joe
Sounds good! Have you seen the double edge rails? I've seen a couple designs where one double edge rail is used in the center of the plate with two wheels on each side.

I might just have to work on a drawing. Sounds like fun.

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Thumbs up

Very Sweet looking Joe you are the man. I can't believe that you have the time to develop another machine with everyone asking you to cut your current machine. You are a man with to much time on your hands LOL.
Keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted by rdhharm View Post
Very Sweet looking Joe you are the man. I can't believe that you have the time to develop another machine with everyone asking you to cut your current machine. You are a man with to much time on your hands LOL.
Keep up the good work.

Rick
Thanks, Don't forget i have a full time job work 10 to 12 hr days, Sleep is not an option right now... Machine is cutting as i type now. lol

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Originally Posted by joe2000che View Post
Thanks, Don't forget i have a full time job work 10 to 12 hr days, Sleep is not an option right now... Machine is cutting as i type now. lol

Joe
I hear you about working 10 to 12 hrs day I do the same but their never seems to be enough time to play like with the machine.
Oh I do like the name of the new Machine is that what you are going to call it

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Yea thought the name would fit it. MDF, 80/20, pipe rails, HDPE, etc... a collection of materials.

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Originally Posted by joe2000che View Post
Yea thought the name would fit it. MDF, 80/20, pipe rails, DHPE, etc... a collection of materials.

Joe
True but they all work good together and play well to.

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