Doescanyone have blueprints...

[brianklein]

... for any World War I trench mortars??? Or Cad files???

[MrWild]

Eighty Eff on aisle three. Yesterday it was plans for a .22 caliber pistol. Today it's a mortor. I bet tomorrow they ask for a silencer. The last idiot that asked me if I'd shorten a barrel for him and then make a silencer for it got the bums rush out of the shop. The little bit of money never makes up for prison time.

[cncjunky]

Originally Posted by MrWild Eighty Eff on aisle three. Yesterday it was plans for a .22 caliber pistol. Today it's a mortor. I bet tomorrow they ask for a silencer. The last idiot that asked me if I'd shorten a barrel for him and then make a silencer for it got the bums rush out of the shop. The little bit of money never makes up for prison time.

Silencers are legal. There is a place in Kansas that sells them.

[drummerboy17]

Yes silencers are legal. But you need a $200 tax stamp to buy one. You are also able to apply for the Tax Stamp to manufacture 1 for yourself. But you are not able to manufacture for others. To do that you need i think a Federal Firearms License.

So for that poster to build a silencer for another person that would have meant jail time.

[cncjunky]

Originally Posted by drummerboy17 Yes silencers are legal. But you need a $200 tax stamp to buy one. You are also able to apply for the Tax Stamp to manufacture 1 for yourself. But you are not able to manufacture for others. To do that you need i think a Federal Firearms License. So for that poster to build a silencer for another person that would have meant jail time.

Thats correct, you have to get a license through the BATF, I beleive. That goes for receivers and guns too. You can make your own guns as long as they are not fully automatic, but you can't sell them. You can make gun parts and sell them too I beleive, but you can't sell a fully completed receiver. The most it can be completed up to is like 80% or somethin in that ball park.

[drummerboy17]

Originally Posted by cncjunky Thats correct, you have to get a license through the BATF, I beleive. That goes for receivers and guns too. You can make your own guns as long as they are not fully automatic, but you can't sell them. You can make gun parts and sell them too I beleive, but you can't sell a fully completed receiver. The most it can be completed up to is like 80% or somethin in that ball park.

Not 100% true but pretty close. You are able to sell a firearm you manufactured yourself with out a license but you would have had to have manufactured it for yourself and not for sale. Meaning you would have to be the intended owner and decide later on to get rid of it.

[cncjunky]

Originally Posted by drummerboy17 Not 100% true but pretty close. You are able to sell a firearm you manufactured yourself with out a license but you would have had to have manufactured it for yourself and not for sale. Meaning you would have to be the intended owner and decide later on to get rid of it.

Really, that's very interesting. I've never heard of it, but it does make sense. Might I ask where you got that information ?

[drummerboy17]

I have seen it on various Internet forums. I too would question the authenticy of forums but it seems to be pretty wide spread.

Here is one i found by googling:
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f...legality-2894/

There is a letter from the BATFE in there in which it states.

"Also, for your information, a nonlicensee may manufacture a semiautomatic rifle for his or her own personal use. As long as the firearm remains in the custody of the person who manufactured it, the firearm need not be marked with a serial number or name and location of the manufacturer. However, if the firearm is transferred to another party at some point in the future, the firearm must be marked in accordance with the provisions set forth in 27 CFR § 478.92 (formerly 178.92)."

So if you intend to sell the weapon you must mark it like any other weapon bought from a major manufacturer with serial number and everything.

Here is something a poster added to that:

"You may (will) run into problems if you were to build an unreasonable number of such guns in any given year and subsequently sell them : a hobbyist cannot make "a full-time income" from selling guns be they home made or commercial. Even if (as a hobbyist / gun enthusiast) you were to "buy / trade and sell" commercially made guns and then sell a few of your items at gun shows you must not make sufficient income for it to be classified as being a full-time income: this is the province of the FFL who is expected to make such an income. The ATF will ask to see records of ALL transactions you have made to establish what income you have earned."

So it is legal to sell the weapon just not in quantities large enough to be seen as manufacturing weapons for sale.

[cncjunky]

Originally Posted by drummerboy17 I have seen it on various Internet forums. I too would question the authenticy of forums but it seems to be pretty wide spread. Here is one i found by googling: http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f...legality-2894/ There is a letter from the BATFE in there in which it states. "Also, for your information, a nonlicensee may manufacture a semiautomatic rifle for his or her own personal use. As long as the firearm remains in the custody of the person who manufactured it, the firearm need not be marked with a serial number or name and location of the manufacturer. However, if the firearm is transferred to another party at some point in the future, the firearm must be marked in accordance with the provisions set forth in 27 CFR § 478.92 (formerly 178.92)." So if you intend to sell the weapon you must mark it like any other weapon bought from a major manufacturer with serial number and everything. Here is something a poster added to that: "You may (will) run into problems if you were to build an unreasonable number of such guns in any given year and subsequently sell them : a hobbyist cannot make "a full-time income" from selling guns be they home made or commercial. Even if (as a hobbyist / gun enthusiast) you were to "buy / trade and sell" commercially made guns and then sell a few of your items at gun shows you must not make sufficient income for it to be classified as being a full-time income: this is the province of the FFL who is expected to make such an income. The ATF will ask to see records of ALL transactions you have made to establish what income you have earned." So it is legal to sell the weapon just not in quantities large enough to be seen as manufacturing weapons for sale.

Wow, very interesting, I had no idea it was legal to do such things.

[HellPhish]

Originally Posted by cncjunky Wow, very interesting, I had no idea it was legal to do such things.

check out cncguns its neat. its why im getting a mill. i wanna build an AR15, AR10, and a 1911 .45 =).