i wouldn't spend more than about $2000 on this little gem. its old. its hard to find parts for, parts are expensive. does it come with any tooling? people who own these seem to think that tooling is gold. i have one in my shop and it ran for while, but then the servo motors burned out and a drive fried, and now one of the encoders is not getting a good signal back to the control, its on and on. the machine was probably good in its day, but by todays standards its old. the only reason i bought mine is that i got alot of tooling with it and i was starting my business on a shoe string budget. i spent more time fixing it than running it but it was all i could afford without putting my family in debt. would i buy it again? yup, but not now, that the business is established.