ok just to answer my own question and lend a hand to others that have the same, i found some trial software on the web: http://www.connectcnc-dnc.com/index.html
(hope im not reposting) but as i was using connectcnc i figured out that cimco edit (for all those mastecam users) can also do it!!! I'm an idiot!!! LOL so tures out i got cimco edit to transfer programs to 3 of our cnc machines. just got another 2 more to go!!!