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Old 10-04-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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Brand new T42-MSY on order

Any one out there been running one? I believe mine will be one of (if not) the 1st on the left coast.
Nothing but problems with a Mori NL1500 MSY, dumping it while prices are good.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:18 PM
 
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The new Hardinge's are mostly made in Taiwan now. I am not sure if the same Hardinge quality is there. All the changes they have made of late:

No more factory direct machine purchase & finance Through Hardinge's Chemung Bank.
No more Factory direct service.
Everything, except collets and such through the new dealer network.

I am not saying that Hardinge is not good anymore. Just that too many people took advantage of the soft hearted folks at Hardinge and basically screwed up the whole situation. Hardinge was very understanding to machine shop owners who made consistant payments But were struggling. We made it through the last "depression" in 2001 with two simple 5% interest (Chemung Bank - Hardinge's own Bank) Loans. You tell me of a Machine Tool Maker that will loan you $300,000.00 for 5% interest? Those days are gone.

I hope you make out great with your new Hardinge!

I have Mori's and Hardinge Lathes & Mills. My Mori's have had less problems than my Hardinge machines. But I love my Hardinges all the same.

Jake

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Old 11-07-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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T42 still made in Elmira...

It's the only machine still made here. US Bancorp still giving 5.25% on $300K.
My biggest problem with the Mori NL is/was thermal growth. hardinge addresses this several ways, all standard on the SP model. Heidenhahn scales x-y-z, 2 thermal comp sensors, coolant chiller standard and all hydraulics and electronics in a separate box, away from the machine.
Plus several other nice features. Take a look on the website, it's a great machine.
Gossiger sells them here, along with Okuma. The salesman hadn't look close at them because no one had shown interest. Now he is pretty impressed with it.

Mori service here is next to worthless, so I'm not giving anything up there.

Will be making chips in Dec, I'll update then.
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