A few concerns about Quick Code.

[DRD]

Call Haas direct, they can answer your questions.

[alteat]

Hi!

I read all the posts in this thread and they all talk about the need to master G-Code. I'm new to this world of cnc, but I already programed some cool stuff and even 3d pieces, but with the aid of a cam software linked to solidworks. Imagine that I want to go back to the begining of the cnc era. Where can I find info about the G-Code, so I could learn it and try to do something with it?

I use a SCM Record 110 al prisma, (5 axis) and I also know how to use their Xilog program nicely! I even manage to find errors, (most of the times in plane angles) in Xilog. But in my company there's an older cnc machine that operates on G-Code, I understand how it works, but I don't know the code itself. Can anyone help me on this?

[Donkey Hotey]

Originally Posted by l u k e Can you give a little more on this? Is this something at the HAAS factory?

Yup. It's a three day class. The third day includes a walking tour of the factory (you won't forget that). It's not like traffic school. If you're thinking of spending this kind of cabbage, it's gotta' feel good learning all of the information up-front. I had a really good time and felt like it was time well spent.

The class helped me to understand the control. I got nice, color printed manuals out of it (you can download them for free but who can afford to print them in color?). I got to meet other guys in the class who had been using it. Some were owners. Some were operators. They all had opinions and experiences they shared during lunch. Haas feeds you lunch on-site. It's not gourmet but it was the best box lunches I've ever been served at a company.

I mean, really: for the amount of money you're thinking about spending, the time and money investment is small. You'll know what kind of machine and company you're buying in to. You'll know something about how to run it when you leave.

I took the class but didn't buy for another 6 months. I was able to run my VF-2 the night it was delivered. I didn't get any on-site training other than the installer helping me with a 15 minute refresher before he left.

I'm not hard-selling you on it, but for me: I have spent three days doing far-less valuable things in my life.

[l u k e]

That's awesome it's only and 8 hr drive (530 miles). I had no idea they had a class like this.
Is there any information on this on their website? I didn't really see anything about it.

[l u k e]

I mean, really: for the amount of money you're thinking about spending, the time and money investment is small.

I couldn't agree more! I guess that's why I've been researching for more than 2 years. But time is wasting away!

Can you give me a quick review of the class structure and what to expect?

[Donkey Hotey]

It's all on their website:

http://www.haascnc.com/custserv_training.asp#custserv

I think Dean Cunningham is running the customer training classes right now but I'm not sure. I guess you could start with an email to Gene Saltis (the training manager--all email addresses are on that page). He's the guy that cost me $150K (I didn't think I could afford my own CNC). I hate that guy.

Unless they've changed things, they only run the class once a month and it's first-come, first-served. Get on the list ASAP because they have a rush of new customers after shows like Westec. It might take a few months to get in. I think I started in April and couldn't get in until the June class. You might get lucky. The point: if you can get a date, don't hesitate--grab it.

As for outline: they're basically going to follow this manual. You'll do most (or all) of the exercises before you leave:
http://www.haascnc.com/training/Mill...m_PDF/xmwb.pdf

[Donkey Hotey]

Hah! Well, excuuuuussse me.

I talked to them at Westec today. It seems they haven't been doing training at the factory for about a year now. I was wrong. No more cool training sessions.

It's handled by your local HFO now. Contact them directly. Tell them your concerns and ask if it's okay to take the training so you can get familiar with it. It's sales. They want to sell you a machine. I guess it's their responsibility now.

[l u k e]

Well, that sucks!

[l u k e]

Turns out classes are available through my local HFO.

"We offer a four day training class free to customers whom have purchased equipment new."

So, I guess I don't have to drive to California.

[cadman@teluspla]

You can't replace G-code but I think you will find the QC and VQC useful
It is very fast for setting up programs for drill & tap bolt circles
also very good for thread milling and pocketing

[Turk88]

I would say that the QC and VQC would be "shop floor programming" similar to a prototrak in that anyone can punch in a few numbers and make chips without actually knowing why it is doing what it is doing.