CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Haas Mills


Haas Mills Discuss Haas machinery here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 04:19 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: canada
Posts: 10
boodoowaa is on a distinguished road
Haas VF-2 SS memory upgrade procedure?

Hi, I was given an old memory upgrade code for a used Haas VF-2 SS. Does anyone know the procedure of how to upgrade. Where do I type the code? Thank you in advance.
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 04:44 PM
Donkey Hotey's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,636
Donkey Hotey is on a distinguished road

You can type it anywhere you want but it won't do you much good; they scramble those codes for every machine. Only Haas knows that particular code for your machine.
__________________
Greg
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: canada
Posts: 10
boodoowaa is on a distinguished road

I have the code for my machine.
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: canada
Posts: 10
boodoowaa is on a distinguished road

Just need the process of how to input it.
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 08:46 PM
Donkey Hotey's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,636
Donkey Hotey is on a distinguished road

Ahh...that's very different. Haas should be able to help you on the phone with that, but this is my best recollection:

  1. Emergency Stop (has to be set so the machine knows that nothing is going to move).
  2. Turn Parameter Lock off.
  3. Find the 16 Meg memory line in the parameters.
  4. Move over to the field next to it, where it has a zero (or something else?). Type in the number you have, Write/Enter.
  5. Turn the Parameter lock back on.
  6. Reset the Emergency Stop.
  7. You should be good to go.
__________________
Greg
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 05-22-2009, 09:25 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 207
JohnJW is on a distinguished road

I didn't know the 16Mb were already built in. I guess this is the norm in the machinery business and the business model does work, but still I really dislike having to pay for the privilege to use control options that were already built in, ie memory, macro, hsm. . . .
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 05-22-2009, 10:17 PM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,396
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by JohnJW View Post
I didn't know the 16Mb were already built in. I guess this is the norm in the machinery business and the business model does work, but still I really dislike having to pay for the privilege to use control options that were already built in, ie memory, macro, hsm. . . .
All you have to do is pay for it and they (Tech Support) will tell you what the code is along with the procedure

If your machine came with the USB interface you could have an instant 2GB

LOL I have processed 1.5 million line programs that are 126mb as a text file.

When you look at it HAAS gives their customers more options.

BTW: Use quality SanDisk USB's and not over 2GB or you may have problems.
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 69
steedspeed is on a distinguished road

I think any company that isn't giving you a huge memory with any machine is full of it!. Memory is cheap and easy to add but it seems the CNC builders want to pretend its a big deal that we should pay more money for. The exception is Hurco who seem to be a more honest company in that regard.
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2009, 11:33 AM
HelicopterJohn's Avatar  
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Seffner, Florida USA
Posts: 614
HelicopterJohn is on a distinguished road
Marketing Strategy

Each company has their own marking strategy. Some companys include certain standard options and require that you pay for them whether you want them or not and others allow you to purchase only the options you want at the time of purchase. (i.e kind of like using a shopping cart)

HAAS gives you a basic price for the machine and lets you add on options as you see fit.

If you want and need the extra memory it is available at extra cost. If you don't want or need the extra memory, you inturn get a better price on the machine at the time the machine is purchased.

Their pricing for the base machine and available options are stated publicly on their website along with additional associated costs.

These are the things you would evaluate at the time of purchase and decide what options you desire and the associated costs.

This marketing approach allows you to purchase on the options that you feel that you need and doesn't force you to pay extra for the options you don't want or need. These additional costs for the options should be taken into considersation when you are comparing apples to apples when looking for a new machine. If you are purchasing a used machine checking the installed options on a HAAS machine will also come into consideration in determining its current value.

Also, if you find out at a later date that you desire one of the options you can purchase it at that time. Some of options are easy to implement like putting in a code and others may require a technician (at $ per hour) to install associated hardware or software. Those are also things to consider when and if you purchase a new HAAS machine.

Just some things that I had to look at when purchasing my machine.

John
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 05-24-2009, 11:35 AM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,396
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by steedspeed View Post
I think any company that isn't giving you a huge memory with any machine is full of it!. Memory is cheap and easy to add but it seems the CNC builders want to pretend its a big deal that we should pay more money for. The exception is Hurco who seem to be a more honest company in that regard.
Today it's all about $$ and continuing to make $$. You can bet that that memory built into your Hurco is incorporated into the price.

A Fanuc control that I recently worked with only had enough room for a 7k sequence block program. Talk about re-posting a program 5 times to get it to fit in the memory.

Your right though memory is cheap and considering 64GB flash drives are available all machine controls should have a USB interface.

While technology is great it can bite.
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 11,565
Geof will become famous soon enough

Helicopter John's explanation is very good and for those of you making your own products you should walk around and view it from the other side. As tobyaxis says making money is the name of the game, making it ethically that is, and there is nothing at all wrong with leaving options turned off until they are neede and paid for; provided you are upfront with the pricing and Haas is. Practice this if possible in your own business.
__________________
An open mind is a virtue...so long as all the common sense has not leaked out.
Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old 05-24-2009, 12:42 PM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,396
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by Geof View Post
Helicopter John's explanation is very good and for those of you making your own products you should walk around and view it from the other side. As tobyaxis says making money is the name of the game, making it ethically that is, and there is nothing at all wrong with leaving options turned off until they are neede and paid for; provided you are upfront with the pricing and Haas is. Practice this if possible in your own business.
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
16M memory upgrade 1ctoolfool Haas Mills 6 04-26-2010 06:32 AM
BMDC memory upgrade emvali Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills 4 10-26-2008 08:10 AM
TNC150 memory upgrade? Oviksnc Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills 3 09-27-2007 11:52 PM
Memory upgrade for Mazatrol T32-3??? Fendertok Mazak, Mitsubishi, Mazatrol 1 12-10-2006 01:25 PM
1985 VMC-40 OS and Memory upgrade 2001lightning Fadal 4 10-12-2005 10:53 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:01 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361